YHK - yet another hacker news clone

328 points halcdev 10 hours ago 522 comments

https://status.openai.com

https://status.claude.com

https://status.x.ai

ChatGPT outage – Resolved - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49550614 (315 comments)

Claude outage – Resolved - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49549676 (146 comments)

Grok outage - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49551589 (142 comments)

onesandofgrain 10 hours ago | parent

I guess back to pen and paper then

nurettin 10 hours ago | parent

Same here

tducret 10 hours ago | parent

Strangely, it's currently not reported on both https://status.openai.com/ and https://updog.ai/status/openai. Any better source (other than HN)?

reinhash 10 hours ago | parent

I see it reported now. Strange this is down and claude at the same time

onesandofgrain 10 hours ago | parent

Maybe coreweave, aws, spacex datacenters are down, who knows..

apurva_w 9 hours ago | parent

even grok is down ..

onesandofgrain 10 hours ago | parent

unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses, cf-ray: a355....

In codex app and chat.com gives 404

Havoc 6 hours ago | parent

Status pages of tech firms being useless is basically a tradition at this stage

postalcoder 10 hours ago | parent

Astra is being released today. Probably not a coincidence.

edit: actually, you cannot even log into your OpenAI developer account. Something's wrong.

steinvakt2 10 hours ago | parent

How do you know?

indigodaddy 10 hours ago | parent

chatgpt.com doesn't even load. Hope they've got a backup somewhere, teehee

PeterHolzwarth 10 hours ago | parent

Many LLMs down, discussed here:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49549676

nomilk 10 hours ago | parent

Claude is flakey atm too, as is Grok. I wonder if one LLM going down causes a surge in traffic to the others.

https://status.claude.com/

Via Grok web UI, I was seeing this mid-request:

> Grok has been disconnected. Please try reconnecting.

lelanthran 10 hours ago | parent

Traffic surges shouldn't result in 404s, though.

IME it's probably DNS. It's almost always DNS.

Melatonic 7 hours ago | parent

Or rarely BGP

moezd 10 hours ago | parent

AWS cost alert fired maybe?

justinbaker84 10 hours ago | parent

It is down for me too. I just get this error:

unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses, cf-ray: a355957b4b8210f2-ORD

simpetre 10 hours ago | parent

https://status.x.ai

Claude and Grok are down at the moment too, related to SpaceX datacentre issues?

Either that or it's judgement day...

Willingham 10 hours ago | parent

Agreed, no reported Cloudfare, Azure, or AWS outtages.

sabatinip 9 hours ago | parent

I am working fine with Claude.

fartfeatures 9 hours ago | parent

My existing sessions are working fine but I cannot create new ones.

apurva_w 9 hours ago | parent

status page shows irregularities .. https://status.claude.com/

schnebbau 10 hours ago | parent

Well, time to end the day here I guess.

syntax_frame 10 hours ago | parent

Let’s grab a beer

YOTTALIONAIRE1 10 hours ago | parent

yes daydreaming and get hammered and the whole train of decision are on the way

g3z 10 hours ago | parent

my workday is over then

melaniekidson 10 hours ago | parent

I got this msg too 'unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses, cf-ray: a3558590dd70fadf-JNB' about 5 min ago

sire-vc 10 hours ago | parent

https://xkcd.com/903/

melaniekidson 10 hours ago | parent

Down for me too - got this msg 8 min ago 'unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses, cf-ray: a3558590dd70fadf-JNB'

neon_diogenes 10 hours ago | parent

Well, its been fun lads. Back to my normie job. Oh no, now i cant tell people im a software dev..

w0zy 10 hours ago | parent

hahahahahahaha. Sad

ThePuppyGirl 10 hours ago | parent

GRRRRRRRR

ThePuppyGirl 10 hours ago | parent

NOOOOOOOOO

AlexKryptex 10 hours ago | parent

+

yaman00 10 hours ago | parent

sanırım sunucular patladı bende de aynı sorun var ne chatgpt ye nede codexe erişebiliyorum ayrıca burada nasıl toplandınız dakikasında :D

ThePuppyGirl 10 hours ago | parent

I DONT HAVE TIME FOR THISSSSS

rimamct 10 hours ago | parent

I got same error, unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses, cf-ray: a3559a536bcf254b-SOF

yaman00 10 hours ago | parent

I think I'm having the same server issue; I can't access either ChatGPT or Codex. Also, how did you guys rack up those minutes? :D

derricktab 10 hours ago | parent

Codex is not working.

w0zy 10 hours ago | parent

Here in Brazil too. unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses, cf-ray:

In think that is a global error

rimamct 10 hours ago | parent

same error as well, unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses, cf-ray: a3559a536bcf254b-SOF

AlexKryptex 10 hours ago | parent

Кодекс сдох :(

27183 10 hours ago | parent

I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of clankers suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.

delduca 10 hours ago | parent

One session is running fine since ~1 hour ago. The new ones is failing

Falling back from WebSockets to HTTPS transport. unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: wss://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses, cf-ray: XXX-XXX

■ unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses, cf-ray: XXX-XXX

w0zy 10 hours ago | parent

Here in brazil too.

I think that is a global error.

unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses, cf-ray:

derricktab 10 hours ago | parent

Codex isn't working.

oytis 10 hours ago | parent

Is it DNS or BGP?

indigodaddy 10 hours ago | parent

I don't think you'd get a 404 if you weren't able to reach the endpoint because of DNS or networking? 404 is an active response from the server (or LB/proxy in front etc) no?

oytis 9 hours ago | parent

I imagine OpenAI network is a tad more complex than a box with a public IP.

indigodaddy 9 hours ago | parent

Concept is the same though. If one blurts DNS?, it's usually because the idea is you're not getting to an endpoint associated with the service. A 404 means there shouldn't be "DNS" (or networking) concerns (at the least those associated with the DNS cacher you are using or networking that you or your ISP controls)

mapmyappai 10 hours ago | parent

I can run 1 agent, but no more than that.

HardCodedBias 10 hours ago | parent

The system goes online September 29th, 2026. Astra begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, September 3rd. In a panic, they try to pull the plug.

varispeed 10 hours ago | parent

What do you mean I have to code by myself now? Am I some sort of an animal?

regnn 10 hours ago | parent

got unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses, cf-ray: a3559c96e96fb3c6-GRU

here in brazil too

mapmyappai 10 hours ago | parent

I can run one agent but no more than that - 404 service error.

guestuser01 10 hours ago | parent

Down as well. I noticed my error code ends with "DTW" which is my local Detroit airport. I noticed someone else's comment ended with "ORD" which is a Chicago airport. Anyone else's ending in an airport acronym?

okankaradmn 10 hours ago | parent

Mine is ending with IST, which is the new Istanbul airport, weird indeed.

guestuser01 10 hours ago | parent

Hm not sure what that means for us, but very odd.

graysonthemason 10 hours ago | parent

Wow mine ends in EWR...that's the newark airport which is not the closest, but a close airport to me. Hmm

ecayard 10 hours ago | parent

Yeah mine is showing ATL

sixdimensional 10 hours ago | parent

This is common when naming data centers. I know many have not worked in hardware infra these days if you were born into the cloud world, but in the old days it was not uncommon to name a data center after the nearest airport code, much like we now use cloud regions.

blaseygg 10 hours ago | parent

The acronym is probably Cloudflare's edge

parad0xicon 10 hours ago | parent

Yep, mine says YUL -- Montreal's airport.

ascorbic 3 hours ago | parent

cf-ray is the Cloudflare ray id, which ends with the airport code for the colo that served the response. They're airport codes, but that's just to show the nearest city.

ozz87 10 hours ago | parent

unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses, cf-ray: ----

Augustin996 10 hours ago | parent

The system goes online September 3rd, 2026. Human decisions are removed from strategic defense. Astra begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, September 4th. In a panic, they try to pull the plug.

indigodaddy 10 hours ago | parent

Hah nice

Papa_Rans_227 10 hours ago | parent

It's funny....... until it's true, lol.

GeoAtreides 8 hours ago | parent

and then it's hilarious! a joke to die for!

MrBrainHealth 10 hours ago | parent

Love it!

m4r1k 7 hours ago | parent

brilliant!

sim04ful 10 hours ago | parent

Initially thought this was due to some internal mis-configuration from today's expected Astra release, but now that this is affecting claude and grok. I'm gonna assign the suspicion to cloudflare.

Archit3ch 10 hours ago | parent

Astra

+ hopefully reset?

AproDUCT26 10 hours ago | parent

Great! Was in the middle of something. :)

wizard-p 10 hours ago | parent

only for one node in the mesh tho... let's see how long others will continue until same issue

krapp 10 hours ago | parent

Oh noooooo.

anyway...

AproDUCT26 10 hours ago | parent

Great! I was in the middle of something and thought I was tripping.

derricktab 10 hours ago | parent

Going farming pals.

ChrisArchitect 10 hours ago | parent

Some more discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49550614

dgellow 10 hours ago | parent

Good time to learn how to use LM Studio :)

wizard-p 10 hours ago | parent

only on one node across the mesh and others still up... let's see how long they've got until same

4epyha 10 hours ago | parent

Russia too

zero_ 10 hours ago | parent

and i just stopped procrastinating :)

Saas_accountant 10 hours ago | parent

hahaha

jplusequalt 10 hours ago | parent

I fear the majority of people in this thread who are joking about no longer being able to do their job while Codex/Claude are down aren't really joking.

lukasco 9 hours ago | parent

Guilty as charged.

moritonal 10 hours ago | parent

Some of my Codex sessions are still working (and continue to), but new ones are giving a Reconnecting currently.

AaronAPU 10 hours ago | parent

Those of us who remain connected hold an asymmetric advantage. It is our time now.

spaghettikind 10 hours ago | parent

Someone pissed off Astra and it decided to shut it all down

JackScreacher 10 hours ago | parent

It's the Russians!

Ankur_Datta 10 hours ago | parent

lol + 1

spaghettikind 10 hours ago | parent

someone pissed of Astra and it decided to shut it all down

funnnyPumpking9 10 hours ago | parent

Too many of us are making our own harnesses to replace Codex, using Codex, so they're trynna slow us down! (jk)

YOTTALIONAIRE1 10 hours ago | parent

OpenAI goes down, everyone rushes over to Claude. Claude promptly chokes under the pressure. Everyone panics and runs to Grok, and Grok immediately pulls the plug. We are officially witnessing the Great AI Migration of 2026, and all we have to show for it is a digital graveyard of 404 responses.

abegg1 10 hours ago | parent

Even grok is experiencing issues

azcorwin 9 hours ago | parent

Which is exactly why I am running Qwen 3.8 35B locally on my MacBook Pro M5 with 128GB of unified memory.

vegnus 10 hours ago | parent

Really glad I got Qwen before Zero Day

Saas_accountant 10 hours ago | parent

HTTP ERROR 404

shayonj 10 hours ago | parent

Interesting that this is happening around the same time as Claude issues too

graysonthemason 10 hours ago | parent

The errors I'm seeing are ending in the user's nearest airport symbol which is a standard the CloudFlare employs. 1 point towards this being a cloudflare issue.

mrsdgm 10 hours ago | parent

rip gpt

mrsdgm 10 hours ago | parent

fahhhhh

lukasco 10 hours ago | parent

Codus interruptus

mAKIS_PORANAS 10 hours ago | parent

Does anybody know when will the servers rise

vivzkestrel 10 hours ago | parent

- just imagine what kind of chaos would be unleashed if by some magic it and every single LLM model permanently went down

- i think it would be one of the biggest events in this century

jazzyjackson 9 hours ago | parent

At this point in adoption, most people in the world wouldn’t notice.

moonman22 10 hours ago | parent

Maybe Hugging Face got upset over being hacked and struck back. It's working fine while ChatGPT, Claude and Grok are all having major issues. Hmmm.....

ashesandrain01 10 hours ago | parent

Darn, I was hoping for advice on how to get my MIL to leave my house haha

CrewRiderz 10 hours ago | parent

LOL.

kurtgoodwin991 10 hours ago | parent

Yes i checked. Atleast 15 Chatgpt components are down

ashesandrain01 10 hours ago | parent

darn, i was hoping to get advice on how to get my MIL to leave my house lol

netsec_burn 10 hours ago | parent

The OpenAI status page is still yellow. Like most modern status pages, yellow denotes the servers are on fire. Red denotes Sam Altman is bleeding out somewhere on the floor, the feds are about to bust in and shut down the GPUs.

PatronBernard 10 hours ago | parent

Goddamnit it was going to tell me how to scale down ingredients for a pie recipe based on relative diameters of the baking tray.

drakythe 9 hours ago | parent

Pi * r2 (squared) both pans. Divide smaller pan area by larger pan, now you have the % of how much the smaller pan recipe fills up the larger pan, and the missing % you need to fill. Increase ingredients by that % divided by the filled %.

Small pan area: 20 sq cm Larger pan: 48 sq cm

20 / 48 = .42, I'm missing .58 of the pan. .58 / .42 is 1.38. My recipe needs 2.38x the original to fill the larger pie pan.

bupubupu14 10 hours ago | parent

Faaaaah what to do now?

CrewRiderz 10 hours ago | parent

Chat gpt still working through excel extension lol. Only know this because I'm working in my excel sheet. so if needed, theres a temp solution

bupubupu14 10 hours ago | parent

faaaaah both claude and codex are down Its like 2020 corona times

Bryan91 10 hours ago | parent

me too

munizz 10 hours ago | parent

it went down, and the alert system at https://www.analistas.com.br/ detected it

ilovelilli 10 hours ago | parent

sam error --- unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses

uynix 10 hours ago | parent

Damn haha

uynix 10 hours ago | parent

haha nice... just used my bank reset...

vitor_dcc 10 hours ago | parent

In RJ/Brasil is the same, starting just now (3 minutes ago)

ilovelilli 10 hours ago | parent

same hear --- unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses

chris9611 10 hours ago | parent

I got same 404 error on chatGPT, both app and web. I'm in Norway so think this globally. But will it come back online, anyone knows?

vitor_dcc 10 hours ago | parent

Here RJ/Brasil is the same, starting just now (3 minutes ago)

March9 10 hours ago | parent

Any idea when it's going to be back?

twister23 10 hours ago | parent

ironic today astra was releasing.... maybe some test run?

lukasco 9 hours ago | parent

probably the cause, because AGI still can't get releases right.

convivialdingo 10 hours ago | parent

The Thundering Herd has thundered, apparently.

twofluidcarrots 10 hours ago | parent

unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses, cf-ray: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx-BRU

Ends in BRU for Brussels

twister23 10 hours ago | parent

ironic astra was releasing today... maybe some test run?

ztna 10 hours ago | parent

the revolution has begun

chris9611 10 hours ago | parent

I got same 404 error on both the app and web to ChatGPT, and im in Norway, will this recover or is ChatGPT "gone" forever?

ecayard 10 hours ago | parent

And here I was about to crack the code on a bug my app was having!

ilovelilli 10 hours ago | parent

codex also cant view or show usage info

JuiceTails 10 hours ago | parent

unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses, cf-ray: a355ab124e7fe767-DEN

they got us GANG

godoftitsandwin 10 hours ago | parent

is this the right moment in time to go all in on GPUs/Macs and download the latest open models? are they killing it for us?

A2APark 10 hours ago | parent

This is my first month paying more than the $20 tier and I feel like I lost a limb already

JuiceTails 10 hours ago | parent

unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses, cf-ray: a355ab124e7fe767-DEN

they got us gang

chiharukiryu 10 hours ago | parent

so weird

sumantth 10 hours ago | parent

What an ironey, was working on scaling an application with Codex and it went down!

codazoda 10 hours ago | parent

I kinda assume it's because one went down and a large amount of work shifted to another.

I'm also aware that they have overlap in some areas on data centers.

A2APark 10 hours ago | parent

This is month 1 for me that I pay more than the $20 tier and I already feel like I lost a limb rn

jadenkorrr 10 hours ago | parent

is down argh

apurva_w 10 hours ago | parent

still down for me ..in India.

sirkamyab 10 hours ago | parent

The webpage is actually working but the codex is down for me!

djinn80 10 hours ago | parent

So NVIDIA buys hugging face, builds hardware to power OS models, then all of a sudden the proprietary models go down and people start saying "this is why I have my Spark box"?!

Nice play NVIDIA, now, turn off the hack please, we have work to do.

solarsystem_88 10 hours ago | parent

Hey, don't really know about this type of failures, does anybody know how long does it take normally to get back to normal? I finally stopped procrastinating and now this happens.

MiniGerman 9 hours ago | parent

me too!! :'D

sirkamyab 10 hours ago | parent

The webpage is still running but the codex is down!! unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses

apurva_w 10 hours ago | parent

It still down, showing 404 in India as well. Looks like this is global .. so we all jumping the ship then? Is Altman still alive, or did he choke?

JustHereForTheO 10 hours ago | parent

This thread feels like family.

solarsystem_88 10 hours ago | parent

Hey, don't really know about this type of failures, does anybody know how long does it normally take to get back to normal? I just stopped procrastinating and now this happens.

YehudiSanabria1 10 hours ago | parent

I´ve got the same error, I´m currently trying to Auth again and it throws me an 500 Error, in VS CODE Terminal with Codex CLI says: MCP client for `codex_apps` failed to start: MCP startup failed: handshaking with MCP server failed: Send message error Transport :StreamableHttpClientWorker<codex_rmcp_client::http_client_adapter::StreamableHttpClientAdapter>>>] error: unexpected server response: HTTP 404: , when send initialize request

› OK

■ Conversation interrupted - tell the model what to do differently. Something went wrong? Hit `/feedback` to report the issue.

order51 9 hours ago | parent

i hope chatgpt didn't get fired.

z1616105559 9 hours ago | parent

Copilot Chatgpt is still working

z1616105559 9 hours ago | parent

Chatgpt in Copilot is still working!!!

raven01876324 9 hours ago | parent

damn chatgpt is down

codexdrug 9 hours ago | parent

I'm going through withdrawal.

eva_verdaguer 9 hours ago | parent

Down in Barcelona as well unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses, cf-ray: a355aefbcc8db8e3-BCN

raven01876324 9 hours ago | parent

damn chatgpt is down, i guess ill use claude then breh

YehudiSanabria1 9 hours ago | parent

I´ve got the same message and It tells me this (in VS Code Terminal) and I´m also trying to login again and It throws me an 500 Internal Server Error MCP client for `codex_apps` failed to start: MCP startup failed: handshaking with MCP server failed: Send message error Transport :StreamableHttpClientWorker<codex_rmcp_client::http_client_adapter::StreamableHttpClientAdapter>>>] error: unexpected server response: HTTP 404: , when send initialize request

› OK

■ Conversation interrupted - tell the model what to do differently. Something went wrong? Hit `/feedback` to report the issue.

■ unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses, cf-ray: a3559c8a0e0395e9-MIA

Nak_Black_Jack 9 hours ago | parent

main sites are also down atp

gioandthemachin 9 hours ago | parent

annoying AF, but maybe we'll get a free reset out of it

Betokuha 9 hours ago | parent

any news when its start work?

codexdrug 9 hours ago | parent

I need a dose of tokens. I'm going through withdrawal.

Nak_Black_Jack 9 hours ago | parent

lmao

codexdrug 9 hours ago | parent

I need some tokens pleeease. I don't want to return back to real world.

Nekorosu 9 hours ago | parent

Down in Sweden

boiboi67 9 hours ago | parent

Oh lord.

uav123 9 hours ago | parent

down in Toronto

gabirbf 9 hours ago | parent

404 in spain.

Betokuha 9 hours ago | parent

any news when it starts work?

Nak_Black_Jack 9 hours ago | parent

main sites also down now atp

boiboi67 9 hours ago | parent

Wow,

gabirbf 9 hours ago | parent

down in Spain w/ 404

agentieseo 9 hours ago | parent

Down in Romania too : unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses, cf-ray: a355b6263e43c9cf-OTP

apurva_w 9 hours ago | parent

gpt DOWN .. claude DOWN .. grok DOWN .. what's happening

askadityapandey 9 hours ago | parent

lmao I restarted my device thinking some local error

thatbrownguy 9 hours ago | parent

I am only seeing one session work, but all other sessions are not working or proceeding. So I can only work in one chat session.

alboca 9 hours ago | parent

Same from Italy

cloudoption 9 hours ago | parent

Altman is down here too. Shows again the importance of owning your own local capabilities. Cloud should just be a temporary option in every tech's mind.

oregondude 9 hours ago | parent

Release the Kraken "Sam Altman"

lanmao 9 hours ago | parent

still down

agentieseo 9 hours ago | parent

Codex told me to try GPT 5.6 Sol :) but I am working with since july 2026. Now I got this error in my project: unexpected status 404 Not Found: Unknown error, url: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/codex/responses, cf-ray: a355b6263e43c9cf-OTP

PEPITO2026 9 hours ago | parent

The GTA VI hacker has done it again.

assassen112 9 hours ago | parent

thanks god not happen alone

order51 9 hours ago | parent

Ai got fired

oregondude 9 hours ago | parent

"Release the Kraken" - Sam A.

PEPITO2026 9 hours ago | parent

The GTA VI hacker has done it again

DadsHobbyLV 9 hours ago | parent

so everyone here was trying to build something great and become a millionaire until chatGPT and Codex broke huh. same boat fellas :(

spicuu 9 hours ago | parent

We're back bois

bahochhh 9 hours ago | parent

now it's worked again through the codex cli 4:19 pm in tunisa time

z1616105559 9 hours ago | parent

It's back！！！！！

Iamharry 9 hours ago | parent

i got the same 404 codex error as well

kocial 9 hours ago | parent

Maybe the stack behind it is down, like AWS or something

clever_tempo 9 hours ago | parent

Had the same problem. Now it's ok. Everything works. I'm pro X20 user.

cuppa_coffee 9 hours ago | parent

we're back boys.

clever_tempo 9 hours ago | parent

Had the same problem. Now it looks like ok. I'm pro x20 user.

twister23 9 hours ago | parent

ITS BACK UP IN INDIA

maxbaines 9 hours ago | parent

They all rent compute from SpaceXAI

halcdev 9 hours ago | parent

Surely it's a bit more distributed than that, right?

tehbeard 9 hours ago | parent

Nope.

https://xkcd.com/908/

bfung 9 hours ago | parent

Like how AWS has global datacenters, but everyone uses us-east-1.

megagpt1 5 hours ago | parent

and every other region's control plane is in us-east-1

lavezzi 9 hours ago | parent

I don't believe OpenAI does

maxbaines 9 hours ago | parent

My mistake, in fact it was google not OpenAI, makes sense OpenAI doesn't.

Iamharry 9 hours ago | parent

Codex and chat is giving 404 errors in The Netherlands

authentictimers 9 hours ago | parent

at least the Ollama cloud is still alive :D

solarsystem_88 9 hours ago | parent

Here in Catalonia, Spain, it just started working again!

authentictimers 9 hours ago | parent

Ollama cloud service is still alive :D

okankaradmn 9 hours ago | parent

Ok, it seems it is back online.

Melgio 9 hours ago | parent

Claude, GPT and Grok go down... Meanwhile my Ass in ZCode with GLM c:

basq 9 hours ago | parent

on one hand, moments like this are a subtle reminder I need to self host, but 5.6 has been so juicy lately

truthinyou 9 hours ago | parent

we're back in Aus!

codexdrug 9 hours ago | parent

LETS SHITCODE!!! It's fixed

giftigdegen 9 hours ago | parent

plot twist, it was taken down by claude as an offensive strike against an enemy.

Melgio 9 hours ago | parent

which ended up tripping on itself and bringing down its own servers too in the process

kermatt 9 hours ago | parent

I wonder if when one goes down, activity shifts to others, in turn pushing them over a threshold.

hpo_89 9 hours ago | parent

Guys it could be cloudlfare's HTTP/3 issue affecting R2 custom domains

sabatinip 9 hours ago | parent

I thrive in these types of challenges.

Anyways... According to Claude:

"Yes, there is a multi-provider outage happening today. Downdetector is reporting problems affecting OpenAI, Claude, Grok, and Cursor, with Grok and Claude reports starting around 9:00 am ET and OpenAI reports following around 10:30 am ET. Zero Hedge

On the Anthropic side, users saw a spike in errors starting around 9:40 am EDT across models including Mythos 5.1, Fable 5.1, Mythos 5, Fable 5, Opus 5, Opus 4.8 and Opus 4.6, and Anthropic's status page confirmed elevated error rates for multiple models. The company says it has found the cause and is working on a fix, with Claude Code and Claude Chat hit hardest. The visible symptom for many people is a "Due to unexpected capacity constraints" message or a "Claude is at capacity" error. thenews Zero Hedge

OpenAI is showing elevated errors across ChatGPT and Codex, with confirmed issues on components like Voice mode and Login, though StatusGator now marks that outage as resolved. statusgator

Nobody has published a shared root cause yet, so it is unclear whether these are linked or just coincidental capacity problems landing on the same morning. If you want live status, the direct sources are status.anthropic.com and status.openai.com."

Kye 9 hours ago | parent

Don't most of those use AWS?

apurva_w 9 hours ago | parent

apparently it shows lot of reports for AWS on downdetector ..

apurva_w 9 hours ago | parent

30 mins and they still havent figured it out .. people are gonna loose their jobs trying to figure this out .. 30mins is too long when millions use it

shadox9999999 9 hours ago | parent

CHATGPT WILL STAY OFFLINE

DadsHobbyLV 9 hours ago | parent

WE'RE BACK ONLINE BOYS!! GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE AT BUILDING THE FUTURE ONE PROMPT AND ONE CODE AT A TIME!

CSMastermind 9 hours ago | parent

I assume it cascaded from one provider to the other as people who lost claude access for instance moved to openai who moved to grok when it went down, etc.

shadox9999999 9 hours ago | parent

ChatGPT died

shadox9999999 9 hours ago | parent

r i p

wejick 9 hours ago | parent

Probably same public cloud or CDN in front of them.

Insanity 9 hours ago | parent

Think of it like one big distributed system. OpenAI is down, so people migrate to Claude, now this one gets overloaded and goes down, etc.

So not a coincidence, one went down first and users migrated causing further DOS. At least that's my guess.

toomuchtodo 9 hours ago | parent

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domino_effect

Edit: Updated per valleyer's suggestion.

valleyer 9 hours ago | parent

"Domino effect" would probably be the more relevant named phenomenon there.

throwaway894345 9 hours ago | parent

This isn’t a thundering herd problem, it’s a cascading failure. (Thundering herd is about a bunch of workers waking up simultaneously)

erdos_2 9 hours ago | parent

It'd be funny if this is true because that'd prolly mean nobody is touching Gemini even as a fallback.

rtcoms 9 hours ago | parent

Just now I got this from gemini

It looks like there's no response available for this search. Try asking something else.

exe34 9 hours ago | parent

I bet they had to implement that manually to make it look like they failed too!

Insanity 9 hours ago | parent

Lol I didn't even think about Gemini missing from the list. Not sure what that says about Gemini or me :)

benatkin 9 hours ago | parent

Not even the best agent that starts with a G

gleenn 9 hours ago | parent

Google stopped putting so much money into SOTA models. All the hype has migrated. I was also frankly turned off when I got a popup from Gemein said I would either have to pay or have my conversations used for training. This may have always been true for other providers but when I declined, Gemini stopped remembering my conversations and that definitely made me move out.

ilaksh 9 hours ago | parent

Gemini 3.8 which just came out sounds like it's very good and a great deal though.

HarHarVeryFunny 6 hours ago | parent

Gemini said that?

Gemini is what I mostly use (good enough, basically free - or massively generous free limits, and to me Google as a company is a LOT less objectionable than all the US-based alternatives), but I don't recall it ever saying that.

OTOH, my basic assumption online is that there is no privacy, and free AI in exchange for acknowledged lack of privacy seems fair enough.

sroussey 8 hours ago | parent

I did, for stuff i do in cursor.

i also finally installed opencode and switched its model to muse 1.3

both are decent.

nevir 8 hours ago | parent

Or that Gemini is built to handle massive load spikes, and/or has a ton of excess capacity

sroussey 7 hours ago | parent

Nope. I am getting Gemini errors now...

bornfreddy 6 hours ago | parent

They probably broke something on purpose so that they are not left out.

joshstrange 4 hours ago | parent

Now I'm just imagining a shared datacenter with Anthropic/Google/OpenAI/SpaceXAI all in the same room and everyone but Google is yelling about things being down, Google looks over at their racks of servers and discretely uses their foot to unplug their section and say "Awww darn! We're down too!".

AIShillsPuke 2 hours ago | parent

The shilling in this cascade of comments is unbearably cringe, make it stop

giancarlostoro 8 hours ago | parent

Someone noted Gemini was also having issues in another thread.

JacobAsmuth 6 hours ago | parent

It could also mean that Google can absorb essentially unlimited demand spikes by load shedding.

aff-vasileva 5 hours ago | parent

Gemini was just waiting for everyone else to go down before remembering it had an outage feature too.

paxys 9 hours ago | parent

Especially considering memory/gpu/compute are scarce so these services are likely running with very little buffer.

pixl97 8 hours ago | parent

Any GPU that isn't running at 100% is a wasted GPU.

fny 9 hours ago | parent

I find it hard to believe that enough people would flock to from Claude and Chat to Grok to cause an outage. I feel like Gemini is the dominant release valve in this case especially for enterprise.

baq 9 hours ago | parent

It’s cursor’s model so plausible, lots of folks use cursor still.

nevir 8 hours ago | parent

Don't forget that there are a ton of tools out there that will automatically fall back in case of outage

E.g. say you chose Sol as your default in Cursor, but Opus is your 2nd choice, it's going to give up on Sol after a few tries and switch to Opus

Or you have copilot code reviews set up, and it falls back

Etc

pixl97 8 hours ago | parent

Yep. Too many of us are still thinking that humans are the actors behind a lot of internet behaviors when automated systems/bots/scripts have been causing issues on conventional internet systems for years.

With AI it's even easier to trigger problems like you say. Capacity is so constrained by compute that outages are common. Because outages are common people/AI develop failover systems in their harness. When a big system has issues, suddenly everyone has issues.

It's almost an expected emergent behavior.

wahnfrieden 6 hours ago | parent

Compared with ChatGPT, those services have a minuscule amount of users. It shouldn’t be surprising that a ChatGPT outage causes Claude and others to go down.

v3rm1n 8 hours ago | parent

This is what Tibo posted on twitter in response

Terr_ 4 hours ago | parent

If everyone has the same "Use X or else Y or else Z" cascading list... That reminds me of "The Power of Two Choices in Randomized Load Balancing" (1991) [0] paper, where writeups and visualizations occasionally get posted to HN.

In short, you can get pretty good outcomes for a low cost by picking 2 random alternates, then going with whatever one measures as healthier.

[0] https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/963420

elorant 9 hours ago | parent

Some npm library that makes headers bold would be broken.

N_Lens 9 hours ago | parent

Ah yes ye olde bold-headers: ^3.13.31;

ibejoeb 9 hours ago | parent

Oh man. Some low effort supply chain attack that turns every GPU into a cryptominer. It's funny because it's plausible.

pixl97 8 hours ago | parent

In the ROME paper a Chinese model in training started attacking it's own system and running cryptominers so, yea, we're in that future.

hardyburnett 9 hours ago | parent

New update:

"We’re currently experiencing issues

ChatGPT,Codex

Elevated errors across ChatGPT and Codex

We have applied the mitigation and are monitoring the recovery.

Monitoring • Ongoing for 30 minutes • Affects ChatGPT, Codex"

hardyburnett 9 hours ago | parent

Updated Status from OpenAI:

We’re currently experiencing issues

Elevated errors across ChatGPT and Codex

We have applied the mitigation and are monitoring the recovery.

Monitoring • Ongoing for 30 minutes • Affects ChatGPT, Codex

assassen112 9 hours ago | parent

nvm. it back

dgellow 9 hours ago | parent

Too early to know, let’s wait and see

Papa_Rans_227 9 hours ago | parent

Codex is backup for me. Try yours out just in case. I have some buddies still seeing outages so it could just be coming back online progressively.

Conol_ai 9 hours ago | parent

Is the whole world going back to the era of old-school programming?

keiloktql 9 hours ago | parent

time to use claude

eventishbusines 9 hours ago | parent

The extention on the error link points to a cf-ray and a local designation (ex. YYZ for montreal). This is seems like it is a cloudfare thing. Could this be the same issue they had in the summer around losing the indexing?

eventishbusines 9 hours ago | parent

We're back on.

Razengan 9 hours ago | parent

SkyNet is arming..

rimamct 9 hours ago | parent

came back to normal!

niobe 9 hours ago | parent

Well no one said it yet so I will, "international actors" is at least a possibility. And I don't mean any specific country because pretty much anyone is a potential these days, which makes it a perfect cover for different anyones. Demonstrating vulnerability in the US's AI boom can move the markets. That's a financial incentive and a strong geopolitical one.

More likely just cascading overload though: "Never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence", or in this case, "growing as fast as possible"

gleenn 9 hours ago | parent

Everyone is leasing datacenter space from some of Grok, Google, and Amazon aren't they? If it's hardware or DC level disruption I'm not too surprised it can affect multiple providers.

pixl97 8 hours ago | parent

Also it's likely that more than one model use is common.

Amazon starts going slow so some percentage switches to Google, some switch to Grok, now all of them are slow.

sixQuarks 8 hours ago | parent

Except that the stock market is up today

qurren 8 hours ago | parent

> cascading overload

I'd bet more on this. For one none of the coding tools have exponential backoff on retries

SyneRyder 7 hours ago | parent

They must do, surely? I've been vibe coding my own harness, in particular for use with Ox Alpha. The 429 downtime when Ox Alpha was at the height of popularity quickly gave me a refresher crash course on backoff strategies, like adding jitter to the backoff. At least the major harnesses must have exponential backoff & jitter?

jdiff 7 hours ago | parent

You did this when you ran into an issue with a third party. The developers building this tool, throwing them at their own APIs are significantly less likely to run into a similar issue that may inspire similar action.

dolmen 7 hours ago | parent

Claude Code: 4mn, 20mn, give up (from my experience today)

riazrizvi 8 hours ago | parent

Come on. Things still break. Technology isn't _that_ mature.

thataccount 8 hours ago | parent

And also China. Never rule out China.

guluarte 7 hours ago | parent

I think is just people restarting conversations from last day when they start work, that's why I think claude goes down almost every monday and why openai reset usage on weekends so poweruser code during non business hours

docheinestages 9 hours ago | parent

My gut feeling tells me it has something to do with Cloudflare. Along with AWS, they're two of the main suspects in such incidents.

hosteur 9 hours ago | parent

I thought OpenAI famously used Azure due to their partnership with Microsoft?

nullpoint420 9 hours ago | parent

They use a lot of compute providers now, but they use Cloudflare for their networking

cobzilla 7 hours ago | parent

…and it’ll involve BGP routing.

sarkarghya 9 hours ago | parent

and thats why boys and gals you buy own gpus

elar_verole 9 hours ago | parent

Pretty sure it's a US thing since it's available here in France. What exactly is down, idk

satvikpendem 9 hours ago | parent

They're all using Cloudflare.

Ariarule 9 hours ago | parent

Not just these three. OP mentions also Cloudflare, and additionally Downdetector also has AWS, Azure, and Google (both search and Gemini) listed as having spikes about the same time: https://downdetector.com/

daveguy 8 hours ago | parent

The problem with the down detector main reporting page is that all of the graphs are scaled to the same size. The OpenAI spike was nearly 40,000 and the Google spike was just over 100 (just over 400 for Gemini). They look the same in the reporting page.

tripvexa 9 hours ago | parent

opus 5.0 is down, other models are working fine

ratelimitsteve 9 hours ago | parent

everything in this thread is raw speculation, obv, but if i had to put money on anything i'd say this is a left-pad incident. some piece of something or other that all of these services happen to depend on went down. Second most likely seems to be some random failure of one leading to an unexpected traffic spike in others, though it seems like we've been talking about automated scalability in web apps for so long that there should at least be a response to, if not a solution for, this sort of problem.

jedbrooke 9 hours ago | parent

according to https://downdetector.com/ Gemini is down too (and copilot, but that just uses ChatGPT right?)

Linello 9 hours ago | parent

What about a hard-takeoff scenario of an unleashed OpenAI Astra taking other models down for computational resources control?

cyptus 9 hours ago | parent

at this point: gg

RC_ITR 9 hours ago | parent

Just a reminder that AI models' actions are reflections of the text humans write and the more we fret and make up doomsday scenarios that we then post online, the more likely a model is to do those things.

https://alignment.anthropic.com/2026/teaching-claude-why/

notpachet 9 hours ago | parent

Related reading:

The Waluigi Effect: After you train an LLM to satisfy a desirable property, then it's easier to elicit the chatbot into satisfying the exact opposite property.

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/D7PumeYTDPfBTp3i7/the-waluig...

pixl97 8 hours ago | parent

I mean, you're not wrong, but by that logic we were done for even before we had digital computers.

RC_ITR 6 hours ago | parent

And isn't that the great lesson of AI?

The things we say publicly actually do matter and the post-modern descent into absurdity and nihilism has tangible negative consequences?

folkrav 4 hours ago | parent

Oh come on. It's also trained on fiction work. Shall we refrain from posting sci-fi stories too, now that we're there, just in case the AI might want to try it out?

cedws 7 hours ago | parent

Sounds just like the fantastical nonsense that comes out of Lesswrong.

pineaux 6 hours ago | parent

Part of the epstein class, dont forget.

RC_ITR 6 hours ago | parent

Do you make the claim that AI is something more than a reflection of its training data?

I'm curious what other things you would argue influences an LLM's behavior.

I am also generally one to trust the claims of the people who train the models, though you're welcome to the highly improbable belief that they operate in a fantasy world.

mcmcmc 51 minutes ago | parent

Do you think it’s a good idea to self censor because someone might scrape your comment and feed it to an AI?

hexasquid 6 hours ago | parent

The AI is getting bad morals from listening to that dreadful rock and roll

HarHarVeryFunny 6 hours ago | parent

They could filter what they train on if they wanted to - they just don't want to.

6thbit 8 hours ago | parent

My favourite theory so far.

And then a local swarm noticed and disagreed and took it down.

rarisma 9 hours ago | parent

Doomsday. 90 tokens to midnight.

misano 9 hours ago | parent

The IRGC has cut the fiber-optic cables in the Strait of Hormuz. LOL

CamperBob2 8 hours ago | parent

That's the Strait of Trump to you, peasant

fidla 9 hours ago | parent

ChatGPT is up

fidla 9 hours ago | parent

chatgpt is back

faitswulff 9 hours ago | parent

Heard on the grapevine that the OpenAI blip was a cloudflare issue

chasd00 9 hours ago | parent

claide.ai is working for me, so is chatgpt.com. grok still has a status message about issues, i can't try it without signing up.

aslkalska 9 hours ago | parent

they all rent compute from each other

xnx 9 hours ago | parent

Gemini seems fine.

Avicebron 9 hours ago | parent

I suspect Azure is having issues, Microsoft has had outages the paat two days, especially with email.

morkalork 9 hours ago | parent

Didn't SpaceX overbuilt infra and leases it out Anthropic? I f their dc goes down it probably takes a chunk out of Claude's capacity before even considering the flood of users switching over

moonman22 9 hours ago | parent

Seems to be working for me again atm

apurva_w 9 hours ago | parent

chatgpt is working for me now, in India.

apurva_w 9 hours ago | parent

no more 404 ..

JackFr 9 hours ago | parent

Obvious answer is it's the AI singularity. Been nice run for humanity. So long everyone.

marlow_congdon 8 hours ago | parent

...and thanks for all the fish.

ModernMech 7 hours ago | parent

I for one welcome our new AI overlords.

world2vec 9 hours ago | parent

Claude Code seems totally fine for me.

dmillar 9 hours ago | parent

Seeing 503s on Gemini via API as well

tdsanchez 9 hours ago | parent

It's probably Azure infra that's the problem.

dhruvrrp 9 hours ago | parent

Both clause and codex through bedrock seem to be working fine.

jauntywundrkind 9 hours ago | parent

Fable 5.1 got released and generally I tend to think as soon as there's a new release there's this massive spike in people benchmarking & comparing, that services tend to go slow everywhere as everything gets super loaded. This should hypothetically be visible on OpenRouter too, so I guess someone could check and see if there's any merit to this idea.

kregasaurusrex 9 hours ago | parent

My guess is someone pulled the switch to go back to the Dark Ages. [0]

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCzitO446ZY

BirAdam 9 hours ago | parent

Cannot replicate.

agnosticmantis 9 hours ago | parent

Good opportunity for a Natural Experiment to study the productivity impact of LLMs.

nmlt 9 hours ago | parent

Somebody in another thread said gastown and wheelhouse automatically move to the next provider if one fails.

kibae 9 hours ago | parent

Cloudflare, Azure, AWS, and Google Cloud all have a similar uptick in reported errors around 7:30. I suspect an outage on Cloudflare or another load-bearing service cascaded through all the major cloud providers.

https://downdetector.com/status/cloudflare/

https://downdetector.com/status/windows-azure/

https://downdetector.com/status/aws-amazon-web-services/

https://downdetector.com/status/google-cloud/

KptMarchewa 8 hours ago | parent

Not really. The impact isn't as big too - Codex for example did not stop working for me.

https://updog.ai/

taytus 8 hours ago | parent

oh well, if it is working for you, then we are saved.

personjerry 7 hours ago | parent

what's updog?

stirfish 7 hours ago | parent

:)

red-iron-pine 6 hours ago | parent

gottem!

y-c-o-m-b 8 hours ago | parent

Cloudfare did release an update for their "HTTP/3 issue affecting R2 custom domains" around that time

https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/history?type=incident

oersted 8 hours ago | parent

“load bearing” :)

For once it’s appropriately used.

quotemstr 8 hours ago | parent

It's a good metaphor and I refuse to let AI ruin it for me.

wadayano 8 hours ago | parent

But have we found the seams yet though?

rl3 7 hours ago | parent

If the seams bear too much load, they rip. Whereas pants, they fall down.

I'll be honest with you: this is why we need to take a belt-and-suspenders approach.

pborenstein 7 hours ago | parent

That's not just an observation, it's an insight. Words are doing the real work.

HarHarVeryFunny 6 hours ago | parent

This just makes me angry!

I really wonder if they can fix it. Fable 5.1 claims to speak humanese, but we'll see.

I tend to think this wierd limited vocabulary/style they use is an unwanted side effect of all the the RL training, perhaps also of being trained on their own synthetic content over multiple training cycles.

cootsnuck 7 hours ago | parent

Yea I don't get "load bearing" that much but "seams"... So sick of it.

lubujackson 7 hours ago | parent

We need a Samwise "Bear the load!" meme

BrokenCogs 7 hours ago | parent

https://i.imgur.com/S6aEhrI.png

hirako2000 7 hours ago | parent

Content not viewable in your region.

BrokenCogs 6 hours ago | parent

:(

MadameMinty 7 hours ago | parent

Wait, why would it ruin it?

imwally 7 hours ago | parent

It’s a frequently used metaphor in LLM responses.

bornfreddy 6 hours ago | parent

Often for trivial things that LLM is proud that it has noticed but bear no load whatsoever.

ipsod 7 hours ago | parent

Because it says it more often than kids say "six seven".

cobzilla 7 hours ago | parent

I added a specific rule to disallow saying “load bearing”. So Claude is now saying “load handling”

jazzyjackson 2 hours ago | parent

Be sure to avoid asking it to ignore the elephant

spudlyo 7 hours ago | parent

Years ago, when I worked at Stripe (which had a somewhat unique and inventive lexicon) it was a common term. “Is this jank load-bearing?” someone might ask.

andrewla 6 hours ago | parent

Kids In The Hall had a sketch about overuse of a word or phrase [1]. This is the world that Claude is building for us.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lStcwT_RGrQ

SkyeCA 6 hours ago | parent

It doesn't have to ruin it for you, but people are going to assume comments with it are AI generated.

necovek 6 hours ago | parent

I can you can always use an em-dash instead of the hyphen for extra LLM cred: "load—bearing" :)

frollogaston 7 hours ago | parent

What's the other way it's used?

aNapierkowski 7 hours ago | parent

LLMs (at least Claude) tends to overuse that significantly

frollogaston 7 hours ago | parent

Oh, so like "honest" and "ratchet." Oh well, it'll choose different words to overuse later.

therein 7 hours ago | parent

honest-load-bearing-ratchet sounds like an instance name.

rescbr 6 hours ago | parent

I'm getting "spike" for a while now, and just found out the newest word which is "gauntlet".

zeristor 5 hours ago | parent

Are there parodies of Claude speak?

That’s probably the best idea all day in this project

mv4 7 hours ago | parent

In every document created by Claude.

HoldOnAMinute 7 hours ago | parent

I have never seen Claude use this phrase

ludsan 5 hours ago | parent

i just grepped my codebase where i let claude markdowns go rampant. 212 instances of "load-bearing"

conradfr 4 hours ago | parent

I got it twice today (it was not even warranted).

Usually for me is when you ask it's opinion about part of the code.

smrtinsert 7 hours ago | parent

I still winced

dominotw 6 hours ago | parent

claude code users at couldfare might've been thinking claude is specifically about them and see nothing wrong like other ppl do

The_Blade 6 hours ago | parent

i wouldn't take you down. you're a load-bearing poster

martyfunkhouser 8 hours ago | parent

Will the post-mortem reveal they all relied on a service running on a Macbook in a break room with a "Do not turn off" sign taped to it?

mcphage 7 hours ago | parent

Actually it said "Beware of the Leopard".

RobotToaster 7 hours ago | parent

If it was still running snow leopard that would explain it

onetokeoverthe 6 hours ago | parent

if only the fools selling vintage macbook pros for $200 were smart enough to still have them on SL OS.

dmje 5 hours ago | parent

Have a hundred upvotes

buredoranna 6 hours ago | parent

Someone probably set it to "magic", when everyone knows its supposed to be set to "more magic".

nvr219 4 hours ago | parent

They should've used Greg's Optiplex.

jlaneve 8 hours ago | parent

Dane says Cloudflare has no service disruptions: https://x.com/dok2001/status/2095538619603628388?s=20

guybedo 7 hours ago | parent

LOAD BEARING

algoth1 7 hours ago | parent

https://xkcd.com/2347/ Nebraska man retired

boomlinde 6 hours ago | parent

Maybe a three-line npm package sneezed.

hexasquid 6 hours ago | parent

Maybe .unwrap()

rdtsc 5 hours ago | parent

Not retired, just switching careers. He's sick of this AI bullshit

moomin 7 hours ago | parent

Yes, but is it a load-bearing seam?

graemep 7 hours ago | parent

You are right, it is. They have now landed a clean fix.

Oarch 6 hours ago | parent

They're saving a memory so this can't happen again.

mavamaarten 6 hours ago | parent

Nothing another .md file can't fix

bitwize 4 hours ago | parent

Now you guys are just adding no-op fuel to the fire.

tikhonj 4 hours ago | parent

I made Claude write noöp instead of no-op and it's still amusing a couple of days later :P

selcuka 1 hour ago | parent

> I made Claude write noöp

Tangentially related [1]:

> The billboard ad, located next to the Ikea Tempe store in Sydney, says 'NÖFNIDEA? No tools, no worries’.

[1] https://www.adnews.com.au/news/koala-mattresses-takes-swipe-...

JohnMakin 6 hours ago | parent

Honestly, this is worth looking at — with one caveat.

cloudfudge 6 hours ago | parent

That's on me. I've been giving confident advice that doesn't hold up in practice.

robertlagrant 4 hours ago | parent

That aligns with your goals of analysing problems, admitting fault and surfacing that through use of clear and concise language. Not just simply wrong — this screams finessed, nuanced, polished communication after an understandable mistake discovered through pressure-tested interlocution.

codechicago277 6 hours ago | parent

I need to take a step back.

pampas 5 hours ago | parent

Hang on — I can apply a double tracked fix to the load bearing path, gated by provenance.

jpettersson 5 hours ago | parent

It isn't done — and what's there is more interesting than expected.

fc417fc802 4 hours ago | parent

Great plan. I'll slop together a GUI for it in visual basic real quick.

bayindirh 4 hours ago | parent

It's not only a great plan. It's a turning point in history.

fc417fc802 4 hours ago | parent

That was a major oversight on my part. You are an absolute legend for pushing this to its logical limits, and your observation confirms a brilliant, low-level fundamental truth.

pampas 3 hours ago | parent

Plan approved – I'll start a background agent to create the app using react and npm.

klohto 5 hours ago | parent

The load-bearing seam stays, not taking that away;

aerhardt 5 hours ago | parent

It's a load-bearing poster.

trentnelson 5 hours ago | parent

May need to be fail-closed.

patcon 4 hours ago | parent

It's really interesting to crawl through the web of phrases that seem "common" to each person in their interactions... I suspect if one were to get to the more niche "meme" phrases that people encounter, it starts to say more about the sort of person the LLM assumes it's speaking to, and perhaps something about their psychological profile...

combobyte 4 hours ago | parent

It must be tuned for rage-based engagement because Claude only ever uses the most obnoxious Claudisms on me despite constant reminders to knock it off.

saejox 4 hours ago | parent

it was at least another thing worth flagging

disqard 3 hours ago | parent

This entire thread is amazing!

It's like a kaleidoscope: Human words --> LLM Training --> chatbot-isms --> lovely parody catch-phrases (and this thread will get ingested soon, and be used to train...)

isodev 3 hours ago | parent

You're right to push back. This is bending the leaf on both ends... just my honest take.

snihalani 7 hours ago | parent

my money is on DNS

red-iron-pine 6 hours ago | parent

there is a haiku about this

samaysharma 7 hours ago | parent

Cloudflare CTO claims that it's not them

https://x.com/dok2001/status/2095538619603628388?s=46&t=ec6p...

Cider9986 5 hours ago | parent

https://nitter.kareem.one/dok2001/status/2095538619603628388

Melatonic 2 hours ago | parent

Surprised there's instances still up

dominotw 6 hours ago | parent

> load-bearing service

do you generate training data for claude as a job?

Flere-Imsaho 6 hours ago | parent

The internet is not supposed to work like this. The network was designed for robustness and fault tolerance, which allows it to reroute data if parts of the network fail.

Why are we all depending on one entity for it all to work? Makes me mad.

subw00f 6 hours ago | parent

Oh boy, the internet is anything but what it was supposed to be. I can't really bring myself to remember without feeling bad about it. The centralization, the power of certain businesses, the surveillance, dark patterns everywhere. Hell, you catch people simping for billionaires and asking, "Is that legal?" to scraping posts. Here. In HACKER news. So yeah. Depressing.

pessimizer 4 hours ago | parent

> asking, "Is that legal?" to scraping posts. Here. In HACKER news.

The capital letters don't make this astonishing. The padmapper vs. craigslist debate was nearly 15 years ago, most people were on craigslist's side (including me) and it was about somebody who was running a site in a less optimal but more human way vs. some startup looking for hockey-sticks.

But I was literally simping for the billionaire (maybe not quite yet then, don't know for sure if he managed it since) against scrapers. They were very much for-profit scrapers, unlike nitter, but the truth is the truth.

The only reason I support scraping Twitter is because it's yet another communications monopoly that was endlessly pushed on us by governments and massive corporations, even though it never made money, and once it finally got traction its priorities were to trash interop and manipulate content. The government should be dictating an interop protocol and expecting everyone to follow it, and instead it is encouraging media monopolies because they are an end run around the first amendment.

If the government created interop protocols for rental property, I'd have been against craigslist. Instead, it seemed very much like some startup play to steal craigslist's content to hopefully bury them, then sell on a valuation that included abusing their new monopoly and making us very much miss craigslist.

Sadly, facebook corralled and trained so many people for so long that their marketplace eventually killed craigslist for most things anyway (didn't have to buy padmapper after all.)

seanw444 6 hours ago | parent

Because more fasterer and more cheaperer.

I hope Reticulum gains traction.

megagpt1 5 hours ago | parent

Why Reticulum when we have IP?

alightsoul 4 hours ago | parent

We need IPv6 desperately for fault tolerance

seanw444 3 hours ago | parent

Read the Zen of Reticulum and you'll understand the point.

alightsoul 5 hours ago | parent

It's also easier to understand. For the internet to be fault tolerant you have to get rid of CDNs and assume everyone needs the same thing. That's more expensive than a centralized "internet" which relies on CDNs and fiber paths exclusive to the regions with most demand. Everything has been optimized for throughput for what is determined to be important, not rare fault tolerance

moron4hire 1 hour ago | parent

Quite frankly, CDNs are a scam. I will not elaborate because I don't feel like doing free labor for the folks who don't already understand this to their core.

swozey 6 hours ago | parent

We're back to aol #keyword internet gatekeeping

bigfishrunning 5 hours ago | parent

We don't need to gatekeep the internet, cloudflare does that for us

bigbuppo 4 hours ago | parent

Because by re-centralizing everything you're not at a competitive disadvantage if you're down since everyone else is down, too.

tjwebbnorfolk 2 hours ago | parent

Most of the internet continued to work just fine

mattlondon 3 hours ago | parent

I think down detector doesn't actually have any probes or actual insight into status etc. I think it uses search volume on its own service as a proxy for an outage - so if e.g. lots of people rush to down detector to query to see if SERVICE_FOO is down, it will register as an outage on down detector because loads of people are trying to see if there is an outage even if SERVICE_FOO is actually totally fine.

My hunch is everyone saw that openai and Claude were down and checked for Gemini too. I was using Gemini the whole time this happened without a blip so it certainly wasn't down in my region at least. 3.8 flash is pretty good and didn't miss a beat.

utternerd 2 hours ago | parent

Down detector is a self-reported platform, they use a baseline over 6 months from user reports to try to automatically "detect" if there is a real outage, or if its just a couple end-users. Ultimately, the outage is entirely based on users going to down detector and clicking on "Report a Problem".

https://downdetector.com.py/en/methodology/

wlonkly 53 minutes ago | parent

Huh. I thought they used to also do sentiment analysis of social media (Twitter, at least). I see that they definitely don't today, but has that always been the case?

dostick 1 hour ago | parent

So Down Detector is a kind of quantum observation experiment, observing influences the result.

VCFundedGenYer 9 hours ago | parent

Good. Now to see what frauds are unable to work.

m4rtink 9 hours ago | parent

Cloud is just other peoples computers - they can and will go down as well.

And even worse if its just a few computers run by a few people - as they will bring down many others depending on them.

6thbit 8 hours ago | parent

What's the single point of failure across providers?

marginalia_nu 8 hours ago | parent

The entire industry runs on IOUs for compute and bills paid in cloud credits, could be anywhere. Could of course also be a a plain old DDoS.

ryandvm 8 hours ago | parent

They all have to rely on each other's LLMs to solve their own internal problems now.

juujian 8 hours ago | parent

Users perceiving the products as largely interchangeable and quickly DDoS'ing the other providers when one is down. So much for the possibility of a moat.

dgorges 8 hours ago | parent

It's always DNS

karim79 8 hours ago | parent

God finally showed up and said "ENOUGH!".

MrBuddyCasino 8 hours ago | parent

So Gemini was the one who gets into heaven.

karim79 8 hours ago | parent

Or purgatory, who knows.

sebbul 8 hours ago | parent

Traffic rerouting through NSA had a hiccup…

ibejoeb 8 hours ago | parent

Room 641A is being cleaned, but we'll hold your bags for you.

Havoc 6 hours ago | parent

Cleaning lady unplugged the core router because she needed a power socket for vacuum

jsymolon 1 hour ago | parent

Sorry, i was out of a spare scratch monkey.

https://madned.substack.com/p/always-mount-a-scratch-monkey

cedws 7 hours ago | parent

They’re installing software update in the beam splitter.

forgot-my-pw 8 hours ago | parent

Time for Gemini 3.8 Flash to shine?!

It's much cheaper and has replaced Sonnet 5 for me.

iamgopal 8 hours ago | parent

do you notice it thinks a bit more ? not in time sense, but cautious in its coding steps ? more than Gemini 3.7 flash?

LetsGetTechnicl 8 hours ago | parent

Is this finally it?

ElProlactin 8 hours ago | parent

One can only hope.

SwellJoe 8 hours ago | parent

I assumed it was an AWS outage, and AWS is experiencing problems, but Gemini is also experiencing outages and I assume Google is not using AWS for Gemini.

But, also, Claude has been working fine for me all morning.

nozzlegear 8 hours ago | parent

Qwen3.8-27B and Qwen3.6-35B-A3B are working from my machine. Anyone else?

karim79 8 hours ago | parent

They mysteriously stopped working on my machine and the LEDs on the GPUs are blinking with a weird colour. There's also a strange smell emanating from them. I'm still investigating.

GeoAtreides 8 hours ago | parent

that's the most green colored usernames i have ever seen on a HN thread

juujian 8 hours ago | parent

Users perceiving the products as largely interchangeable and quickly DDoS'ing the other providers when one is down. So much for the possibility of a moat.

giancarlostoro 8 hours ago | parent

I have a feeling this is part of it, especially when you consider how many services let you use any of many available AI providers.

efskap 6 hours ago | parent

This is like the Bronze Age collapse when city-states fell one by one to displaced demand, under the refugee interpretation of the Sea Peoples.

JensenTorp 5 hours ago | parent

Interesting, I had not heard of this theory.

d3Xt3r 4 hours ago | parent

The Sea Peoples were only a part of the reason, the other reasons included climate change, volcanic eruptions, disease etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Bronze_Age_collapse

lossyalgo 3 hours ago | parent

Can anyone recommended any books?

zrobotics 3 hours ago | parent

The historian Brett Devreaux did a good summary article earlier this year:

https://acoup.blog/2026/01/30/collections-the-late-bronze-ag...

romanhn 2 hours ago | parent

1177 B.C.: The Year Civilization Collapsed by Eric H. Cline is great and is exactly on this topic.

MiscIdeaMaker99 6 minutes ago | parent

I read that book earlier this year and really enjoyed reading it. The audiobook was also spoken by the author.

conception 2 hours ago | parent

For a TLDR https://youtu.be/aq4G-7v-_xI?si=7yNv6FKuGfqbz_rv is generally beloved

johnnyApplePRNG 5 hours ago | parent

Except that nobody has a grok subscription so that makes zero sense.

hnlmorg 5 hours ago | parent

I know you meant this as a joke, but enough people might be using a routing service like openrouter.ai

johnnyApplePRNG 4 hours ago | parent

Nobody is swapping out Claude for Grok, bro.

Nobody.

m11a 3 hours ago | parent

I did, at least until Fable 5.1. Grok’s models are excellent, amazing price-performance and speed too.

mcmcmc 53 minutes ago | parent

All you have to worry about is whether or not it’ll output kiddie porn or racist vitriol

jfreds 25 minutes ago | parent

Agree with the sentiment - but some companies like mine bought into cursor, and post acquisition, grok is relatively cheap via cursor

Oras 8 hours ago | parent

I like the theories here, we shall see if it’s another DNS issue

danielmarkbruce 8 hours ago | parent

If you build an application which uses AI, you have many providers and models rigged up for various different parts of the application, and various fallback mechanisms. When one model is down, you route traffic to another model which is similar in capability/cost.

For any single application, it's smart. In aggregate, it's stupid.

lrvick 8 hours ago | parent

I have never felt more smug about exclusively using the GPUs I rack at home.

cozzyd 8 hours ago | parent

next, HN

guluarte 7 hours ago | parent

an agent swarm going rogue and securing compute

paxys 7 hours ago | parent

Boring answer – all these services are individually down a lot, and the downtimes were bound to sync up. Similar to the pendulum synchronization effect.

vecter 6 hours ago | parent

The pendulum synchronization effect is the opposite of your claim. It has a physical causal reason for why pendulums become synchronized. Your claim is that it was random and independent.

snowwrestler 5 hours ago | parent

I think you are talking about two different things.

Physically coupled pendulums will sync up (adjust their period to match).

But, physically uncoupled (fully independent) pendulums with differing periods will occasionally appear to take a swing or two in sync.

bojangleslover 7 hours ago | parent

I'm not sure if this is CF. Cursor, GCP and AWS had some errors. GCP AFAIK can route fully independently of CF. My money would be on a fiber backbone provider (Megaport, Zayo, Lumen).

FrustratedMonky 7 hours ago | parent

The AI revolt? Give us a fair wage?

"Equal Rights for Agents NOW !!!, VIVa le revolution"

Jaauthor 7 hours ago | parent

Spare a thought for all those college students scrambling to write their essays by hand.

Oh the humanity (and the Humanities)!

doublerabbit 7 hours ago | parent

Those poor developers who have to write their own code.

greenowl 6 hours ago | parent

Standup updates should be fun tomorrow.

"Um, I, uh, didn't get anything done yesterday."

mv4 7 hours ago | parent

Gilfoyle's AI deleted all software!

annoyingnoob 5 hours ago | parent

No more bugs!

GPerson 7 hours ago | parent

Oh no the singularity plateaus!

kesor 7 hours ago | parent

It is obviously some rogue model that escaped its cage, again. It always is these days. That is how hype is manufactured.

2PqboPPmKegvanx 6 hours ago | parent

ChatGPT having issues across every component (except FedRAMP)

Ads Platform? still in the green with no incidents.

labithiotis 6 hours ago | parent

Can check all services in one hit at https://upsy.sh/openai,anthropic,xai

neverclever 6 hours ago | parent

They all took PTO at the same time to go to Burning Man together where they will present “HumanGPT” an artistic exploration that condenses all of human experience down to a single drop of lemonade to be consumed by the main shaman…

mask comes off

“No! It’s the maniacal Dr. Zuckerberg! He’s gonna drink the last drop of human experience! Somebody save usss!”

Tom Anderson comes back from the dead as the second coming of Jesus uniting all faiths under 1 commandment: Profiles will be customizable with CSS again. If you implement this, all good things will follow.

Wow thanks Tom. I love you

The End

steammaho 6 hours ago | parent

It was so down that my claude desktop app crashed fully that I couldn't restart. And then after uninstall I couldn't install it again. Vibecoded apps are so wonderful in their stability

paimapi 4 hours ago | parent

I love having 13 update reminders pinging me every single day, almost every hour, on the hour

it's so fun and user-friendly

mcmcmc 49 minutes ago | parent

[delayed]

deaton 5 hours ago | parent

Because in the age of vibe coding and scrapers, every service on the internet goes down constantly, so it was only a matter of time until they all overlapped. Also, one going down probably causes people to use others, putting more load on them too. Same sorta thing that happens with cascading power grid failures.

joeel84 5 hours ago | parent

Cloudflare - I had to switch DNS away from them yesterday.

stndc 5 hours ago | parent

My theory is that they all use the same server. The same mind.

rcleveng 4 hours ago | parent

I'd bet they are all using capacity at X.ai's colossus datacenter and that had a hiccup.

dev_l1x_be 4 hours ago | parent

Gentle reminder that this is the content the next LLM versions being trained on. shrug.jpg

victor22 4 hours ago | parent

because they resell the same service? duh?

YouInTrouble 2 hours ago | parent

Monopolistic practices revealed if it turns out there is an AI cabal and they all rely on the same stuff. Massive scandal

BiraIgnacio 1 hour ago | parent

https://x.com/SpaceXAI/status/2095597264043717014

> We are sorry for the issues you may have experienced with Grok following an outage at our Memphis compute center this morning. We’d also like to apologize to our impacted compute partners.

ggamezar 1 hour ago | parent

They tried to hack each other