YHK - yet another hacker news clone

50 points walrus01 3 hours ago 35 comments

This is on the front page right now: https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/salespatriot/jobs/M46X6YX-forward-deployed-engineer

Some notable things:

a. Go. Fly out and plant yourself inside the customer's operation. Weekdays are onsite (Wisconsin, New York, Miami, Los Angeles); weekends we regroup at the SF HQ to debrief and keep building.

Sounds like a 7 day work week to me.

b. Absolute grinder. Interested in co-living (though not required). Comfortable with ambiguity and rapid change.

You're expected to work 7 days a week and completely blur the line between personal and professional life by "co-living"? What kind of person wrote this?

walrus01 3 hours ago | parent

Adding URL here in a comment to make it clickable

https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/salespatriot/jobs/M46X...

andsoitis 3 hours ago | parent

Yes and? If this is not appealing to you, don't apply. But for some the travel and being at different customer sites is energizing and fun.

walrus01 3 hours ago | parent

I don't know if I'd really define "some" travel as flying SF to NYC (or SF to Miami, or Wisconsin) every sunday afternoon/evening, and then flying NYC to SF every Friday evening. That meets a definition more like "constant" to me rather than "some".

duskwuff 2 hours ago | parent

Don't forget that you're flying NYC to SF to "regroup at the SF HQ to debrief and keep building". What, you thought you got the weekend off? Rise and grind.

browningstreet 2 hours ago | parent

It shouldn’t even be legal.

eqvinox 2 hours ago | parent

It isn't, in a bunch of other countries.

amazingamazing 1 hour ago | parent

Why not? Should it be illegal for someone to have multiple part time jobs?

edot 3 hours ago | parent

I mean, for 0.15-0.20% and a top end salary of $200k living in SF that sounds like a great opportunity!

kaikai 3 hours ago | parent

Don’t get me wrong, $200k is a lot of money, but it’s not a top end tech salary in SF.

steve_adams_86 2 hours ago | parent

It’s quite poor given that you don’t get to have a life outside of work, too. I’d start to think that sounds great if it was a 4 day work week, but 7… Bizarre.

gedy 3 hours ago | parent

Are you serious? That's not much to be able to live there. And for the top end no less?

walrus01 3 hours ago | parent

200k in SF with CA income taxes and SF cost of living is not that much at all. It's low enough that "No, you can't ever hope to afford to buy a home or get a mortgage in the city of your legal residence" is a flat out fact.

duskwuff 2 hours ago | parent

Good news / bad news: employees are also expected to "co-live in our Warsaw & SF Hacker Houses" (i.e. corporate frat house).

Not quite sure how they get "teams of 20" living in those houses with a total company size of 15, though.

walrus01 2 hours ago | parent

Maybe they have some ex US Navy submariners that have introduced the concept of hot bunking.

sheepscreek 40 minutes ago | parent

Yeah, it's not much for SF.

altairprime 3 hours ago | parent

Yes, they explicitly brag about this in their LinkedIn feed:

(1 month ago) https://www.linkedin.com/posts/salespatriot_forward-deployed...

> Forward Deployed Engineers in the wild. We said "go relax." They brought their laptops onto a duck float. Because when you're helping customers manage supplier communications semi-autonomously and speed up America's defense industrial base, "break" is a relative term. This is the energy.

(I don’t make a habit of checking that site but happy to make an exception to answer this post’s ‘did I interpret correctly?’.)

kaikai 3 hours ago | parent

I got a recruiting email recently for a job that had 5 days onsite, but SATURDAY was work from home, listed like it was a perk.

It’s wild out there.

horticulturist 3 hours ago | parent

Seems more like a cult than a job. Hopefully the equity is like… a lot.

newsomix9xl 2 hours ago | parent

You get to work from home two days a week: Saturday and Sunday.

walrus01 2 hours ago | parent

But also a good portion of every Sunday is going to be flying coach all the way across the continent to NYC or Miami, because you're expected to be on-site at the customer premises at 8am every Monday! You'd better be sure to get some work done on that flight or the company leadership will notice.

ofjcihen 2 hours ago | parent

The founders look like they can’t be out of their early-mid 20’s… this stinks of a frat-house 3 AM convo that made it to the next morning.

vetrom 2 hours ago | parent

The being expected to fly around the country weekly in conjunction with 'this is not a remote position' is pretty wild.

walrus01 19 minutes ago | parent

If a person is expected to spend 1.5 to 2.0 days out of a 7 day week in SF and the rest of the time travelling to some random location in the 48 states, you might as well make your legal residence a state with no state income tax (since obviously you don't spend >51% of your year in SF).

hackable_sand 2 hours ago | parent

Saw this too.

Their name is Sales Patriot, hiring a "FDE", and they are funded by YC.

That should be enough information by itself.

toomuchtodo 2 hours ago | parent

Is this legal under California labor law?

toast0 1 hour ago | parent

Probably? I imagine most of these jobs are 'exempt' and so paying for overtime isn't required. Otherwise, obscene hours are legal as long as the employer is paying overtime (including paying hours for missed rest periods)

Anyway, most of the work is going to be done out of state...

android521 1 hour ago | parent

let me guess, the founders must be chinese origin.

tlhunter 57 minutes ago | parent

Nope

vgeek 1 hour ago | parent

I clicked through each of the founder's LinkedIn profiles for that posting because something seemed... off about it. One was listed as a Forbes 30 under 30, combined with the language/curation of their pages, made me think these are going to join the likes of Holmes/SBF/Charlie Javice.

ungreased0675 36 minutes ago | parent

Sounds insane. A delusional lunatic would expect that from an employee, and only a crazy or extremely desperate person would take that job.

What’s the equity and salary for completely dedicating your entire life to this company? Why not just hire two or three normal 40-hour employees?

ButlerianJihad 14 minutes ago | parent

> completely dedicating your entire life to this company

Catholics like me would refer to that arrangement as “a religious vocation”. So it would come with room & board, wraparound health care, community living, hard labor and/or lofty intellectual pursuits.

It’s interesting how the secular world continually tries to recapitulate these phenomena.

beiarea 31 minutes ago | parent

Is this better? I can’t tell

https://filthydreams.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/View-Job...