43 points eyalitki 1 hour ago 23 comments

blinded 48 minutes ago | parent

Isn't he going to be in litigation for the next N years? How can he focus if he is in court and depositions?

not trying to hate at all, just curious what this article is trying to achieve

jiggawatts 34 minutes ago | parent

Litigated by whom? Look at what happened with Sam Altman: when he returned he forced the existing board members out, replacing them with loyalists.

When you go for the king, you better not miss.

enos_feedler 33 minutes ago | parent

Did they miss? Sure looks like a bullseye

jb1991 30 minutes ago | parent

Two firings of extremely different nature. The U.S. government and/or it's trade policies wasn't involved in the Altman ordeal, for starters. Jensen will be investigated for a very long time; none of this is getting washed away any time soon. Cabinet members are involved.

rubyn00bie 7 minutes ago | parent

Given how close Jensen has been to Trump over the past few years, I would not bet on any investigations having teeth or even materializing. I could also see an immediate “settlement” and complete pardon. This administration has proven to be wildly corrupt and shown little regard for the status quo. They’ve pardoned people who have committed outright fraud, why would they do anything less for someone like Jensen?

cyanydeez 28 minutes ago | parent

Depends on whether there's defacto evidence he know Megaspeed was shipping his cards to china. Congress would be the one, followed by shareholders for killing stock prices, etc.

sidewndr46 28 minutes ago | parent

over what? NVIDIA will face government scrutiny over GPUs getting to mainland China for a long time. With or without Huang.

I haven't heard that any of the women he has been involved with are making legal threats.

chasd00 8 minutes ago | parent

Given how women are treated in high profile scandals (see Monica Lewinsky) I would think they’re trying to stay as anonymous as possible.

bubblethink 23 minutes ago | parent

NYTimes is asking hard hitting questions such as "What does it mean to be a spy anyway?". There isn't going to be any litigation from the government. There will be a dog and a pony show though, which should provide sound bites to every opportunistic political hack on the hill.

DeepYogurt 13 minutes ago | parent

Maybe he bought a pardon?

icepush 5 minutes ago | parent

Having a 12 figure net worth helps ameliorate this problem somewhat.

Uh, so I've heard.

TheAlchemist 13 minutes ago | parent

If anybody had any doubts about the morality of Silicon Valley guys...

Jensen is a fantastic founder and what he achieved is nothing short of extraordinary. He should be celebrated for that.

However, there are 2 issues.

First, everything points to the fact that he knowingly evaded sales restriction to China on products that are considered crucial to national security. That's pretty much equivalent to leaking confidential info from Los Alamos during WW2...

Second, I like to think that US, despite all its challenges recently, is still a country of law. Nvidia is a public company. With great power comes great responsibility. He failed that responsibility. I really don't see why law shouldn't apply to him.

clay_the_ripper 9 minutes ago | parent

it appears that what they did was not illegal under the current rules, which is why they are discussing changing the rules.

If this was a cut and dried evasion of export controls we would have a very different situation.

The fact is that many disagree with their decision to make the chips more available, but people’s opinions are not laws.

platinumrad 9 minutes ago | parent

> That's pretty much equivalent to leaking confidential info from Los Alamos during WW2...

No it's not.

hoppp 9 minutes ago | parent

I've heard news now that no,Megaspeed was not transferring chips to China, they only rented the compute.

So right now lots of conflicting information around.

bubblethink 7 minutes ago | parent

Do you have any evidence to back up "knowingly" and "evaded"? Megaspeed was not on the export control list.

throwa356262 5 minutes ago | parent

It's his company, he wants to sell stuff. Government flip flopping on export restrictions costs him billions, of course he will try to side step it.

Also, can we please stop calling it national security? US wants to limit Chinas access to chips in order to hinder its AI progress.

It's not like Xi is going to use nvidia GPUs in missiles.

musha68k 7 minutes ago | parent

[delayed]

1239871 6 minutes ago | parent

No other CEO wants to deal with circular deals, artificially inflated GPU prices and sanctions evasions.

Upstanding citizens Musk and Sweeney (Epic Games is 48% owned by Tencent which still needs GPUs) support the initiative.

The bubble must go on!

Driver4732 6 minutes ago | parent

Jensen just needs to go away. It's safe to say that he's been a net negative to society and he's only concerned with enriching himself to the detriment of everyone else.