281 points jbredeche 1 hour ago 267 comments
minimaxir 1 hour ago | parent
bmitc 1 hour ago | parent
I'm not really making a judgement on Huang, but it seems others have done worse. It's making me wonder if there's something larger at play where people (i.e., other billionaires and CEOs and perhaps politicians) are unhappy with Huang.
barney54 1 hour ago | parent
bmitc 59 minutes ago | parent
quickthrowman 43 minutes ago | parent
The board decides who is CEO. Zuck controls the board. Zuck cannot be fired unless he wants to be.
u1hcw9nx 1 hour ago | parent
bmitc 1 hour ago | parent
hackernud3s 51 minutes ago | parent
colechristensen 1 hour ago | parent
It would have to be a very good cause though, disliking him or ordinary bad business decisions won't cut it.
yubblegum 13 minutes ago | parent
pcbro141 1 hour ago | parent
Sen. Chris Coons says investigating Nvidia's CEO is top priority for Democratic Congress
https://www.npr.org/2026/11/09/nx-s1-6032682/senator-chris-c...
zero_shift 39 minutes ago | parent
(sadly this is not my joke)
droidjj 1 hour ago | parent
dcgudeman 1 hour ago | parent
bradleybuda 1 hour ago | parent
mcmcmc 56 minutes ago | parent
bravetraveler 48 minutes ago | parent
"Our kingdom for a shadow", or something. https://shakespeare.mit.edu/richardiii/richardiii.5.4.html
u1hcw9nx 1 hour ago | parent
missedthecue 1 hour ago | parent
mtremsal 55 minutes ago | parent
u1hcw9nx 37 minutes ago | parent
2. Ian Buck as CEO (Inventor of CUDA, PhD, vice president of hyperscale and high-performance computing).
Right replacement could jump the stock 20%, mediocre replacement can drop it 20% from the current lows.
LarsDu88 41 minutes ago | parent
snvzz 1 hour ago | parent
tayo42 1 hour ago | parent
But there's no real competitors still? Even for the medium term?
waffletower 1 hour ago | parent
whatever1 1 hour ago | parent
mcmcmc 1 hour ago | parent
whatever1 48 minutes ago | parent
mcmcmc 40 minutes ago | parent
taurath 14 minutes ago | parent
Avicebron 7 minutes ago | parent
tefkah 4 minutes ago | parent
fidotron 1 hour ago | parent
Training must not be allowed by normal people. The resulting models may work stuff out that they're not supposed to and that would be bad and wrong.
cromka 1 hour ago | parent
galkk 1 hour ago | parent
I expect shit show funnier than when OpenAI tried to put Altman with same result.
sparkling 1 hour ago | parent
BeetleB 51 minutes ago | parent
Does Nvidia have such a policy? Unless laws have changed, this isn't an issue as far as the law is concerned.
(Googling - seems they may actually have this policy...)
From what I've heard: Nvidia's operations is heavily reliant on Jensen. He's embedded in everything. Early in the pandemic, I interviewed with them. The recruiter said that pretty much every engineer at the company will, at some point, be in a meeting that includes Jensen. I spoke to a friend who worked there and he confirmed it.
(Probably no longer true as they've grown a lot since then).
carlosjobim 38 minutes ago | parent
Avicebron 27 minutes ago | parent
sparkling 25 minutes ago | parent
bigstrat2003 23 minutes ago | parent
mcmcmc 57 minutes ago | parent
44mkultra69 1 hour ago | parent
karimf 1 hour ago | parent
jawiggins 1 hour ago | parent
> During the conference, Nvidia executives were at a nearby hotel for meetings. Mr. Huang and Ms. Powell were seen being affectionate at the hotel. One bystander captured the interaction on their phone, three people briefed on the incident said.
> Mr. Huang’s security witnessed the bystander with their phone and sequestered them, the people said. They made the person an offer to sign a nondisclosure agreement.
Well, at least there will be one way to make money after AI takes my job...
Jokes aside, I would expect we will soon learn there is more. Given that Nvidia was vouching for Megaspeed while exporting those chips, I still think there's a reasonable chance Jensen ends up in jail over this. Not large, but possible.
plinkplonk 5 minutes ago | parent
When I encountered this ( in much smaller, non strategic companies!) both parties took great care to hide their affair and appear completely professional in public. The fun and games were kept behind closed bedroom doors. I don't get it.
rvz 1 hour ago | parent
Seems like this video and the first affair with the spy was a classic blackmail operation used against him as I said before [0] and Huang likely said no to the wrong person.
It is over.
sparkling 37 minutes ago | parent
EmX_3000 1 hour ago | parent
Hopefully this teaches the market to migrate away from proprietary CUDA and NVIDIA and their proprietary drivers.
CyberMacGyver 1 hour ago | parent
WheelsAtLarge 50 minutes ago | parent
bijowo1676 43 minutes ago | parent
The coup of Jensen Huang was precisely organized by the same large institutional investors.
They want NVIDIA to lock-up firmware and prevent any open-weight models from being run. Everyone (at least in US/NATO/US-aligned world) will be forced to use Anthriopic/OpenAI or some other US based closed source model.
Open models will be banned at the GPU level.
This is done to cement the multi-trillion dollar valuation of the AI labs and prevent AI bubble from popping due to customers using free open-weight, instead of pay-per-token closed models
IsTom 36 minutes ago | parent
dandellion 24 minutes ago | parent
bijowo1676 17 minutes ago | parent
the rest of the world will be starved of GPUs and chipmaking equipment and chemical supplies for chip making
UncleOxidant 20 minutes ago | parent
bijowo1676 14 minutes ago | parent
no biggie if their valuation will deflate a bit just like Cisco did in 2000.
pure-software business like openai/ant, will be protected and their global market will be protected
desolate_muffin 1 minute ago | parent
A_D_E_P_T 26 minutes ago | parent
Such a move would also be transparently dystopian... though, in fairness, I suppose that makes it more plausible than it would otherwise be...
bijowo1676 18 minutes ago | parent
if Uncle Sam has not approved your model, it will be illegal to run it as a AI risk.
Americans have swallowed even worse limitations on their freedoms, so nobody will even notice that, because all notices will be sent to hyperscalers, neoclouds, and other large operators of GPU farms
augment_me 33 minutes ago | parent
chad_strategic 58 minutes ago | parent
The US taxpayer wins.
/s
matsemann 56 minutes ago | parent
I'm scared about how this in turn shapes society.
blahblaher 54 minutes ago | parent
jacquesm 50 minutes ago | parent
I haven't found the answer. But I do know one thing from my (smallish) sample: the nice guy never let the money get to his head. He drove his own car (a VW Rabbit, ok, a nice one) and lived in the same house that he lived in when he started his company. And until the day he died he just kept doing what he loved without ever feeling the need to lord it over others. More like a Wozniak (who is the other 'nice billionaire' that I'm aware of but I've never met him).
Edit: I wrote about him:
kodoman 33 minutes ago | parent
A human being is so unlikely to be good on their own, pretty much all cultures practiced infanticide and child sacrifice and pederasty and only changed because a few hated these practices and forced them to stop.
jacquesm 24 minutes ago | parent
kodoman 11 minutes ago | parent
But a lot of people the only moment they get to act in an unaccountable manor will act very badly. This is not all people but probably above 90%.
fullshark 47 minutes ago | parent
kodoman 37 minutes ago | parent
I don't like CEO worship or tech culture (I know I am on hackernews but I am a developer and did like software development and related topics), but this take is crazy most people you know would probably take the bait on an operation like this even 'good' people.
And just take a look at the scum running things outside of Tech a lot worse then a moment of infedality, look at all western leaders you will probably find few better (or even equal) to Jensen. Jensen did not shape the shitshow you are seeing now (not saying he is not part of it), it was corrupt from the start, Just a worthless veneer of morality.
Don't morn your societies decay it was a cadaver from the beginning only by putrefaction will it become the soil to plant strong trees on.
WheelsAtLarge 55 minutes ago | parent
He's out as CEO but he'll continue to be a force at Nvidia. If the new CEO is smart, he'll keep him in the company, but it will be hard since Huang will be seen as the company's leader and it will be very hard for Huang to act any other way.
mcmcmc 54 minutes ago | parent
rubyfan 51 minutes ago | parent
avazhi 48 minutes ago | parent
The bigger issue is the conflict of interest stuff, but until that’s proven this is a horrible look for NVIDIA if they actually go through with it.
JumpCrisscross 47 minutes ago | parent
The no-going-back issue is the corruption. Jensen corruptly quashed an investigation into Megaspeed. He then quite clearly expected Republicans in Congress to back him, which is why he only came clean when forced to.
avazhi 44 minutes ago | parent
JumpCrisscross 43 minutes ago | parent
I don't care about it. But I do understand folks who are dismayed to see someone who many of us–myself included–saw as a bit of a paragon until a few weeks ago turning out to be a total shithead.
grey-area 32 minutes ago | parent
He was never a paragon.
dofm 36 minutes ago | parent
His board must think he's a lunatic. They have every right to know if he's having an affair with anyone (because marital infidelity is a personal corruption issue that is rarely not a problem when it's a CEO, since carrying off an affair usually involves suborning staff in some way). But this? Madness.
lenerdenator 30 minutes ago | parent
Stepping outside of your marriage behind your spouse’s back is still scummy behavior.
adksjghkjd 24 minutes ago | parent
one was a direct report, one was a spy
ml-anon 21 minutes ago | parent
discordance 37 minutes ago | parent
Considering the current administration and the amount of corruption by trump and co, I feel like not following the rules is too simplistic an explanation for being targeted like this.
stickfigure 26 minutes ago | parent
hbcdbff 45 minutes ago | parent
Affair of a CEO with a direct report and member of senior leadership? Kind of a big deal
Affair with a Chinese intelligence agent? Quite a big deal
famouswaffles 42 minutes ago | parent
eli_gottlieb 30 minutes ago | parent
One affair was a mistake. Two, with a spy and an employee, are a real failure of responsibility -- and those are just the ones we know about.
QuiEgo 16 minutes ago | parent
The second one will get you fired just about anywhere.
eecc 32 minutes ago | parent
I don’t understand you Americans; you live in a disproportionately violent society, tolerate all sort of abuse and manipulation, then will scream hysterically at anyone having an unconventional sex life.
macintux 15 minutes ago | parent
doublescoop 4 minutes ago | parent
TheAlchemist 17 minutes ago | parent
Recent trend is quite the opposite. What's Tesla without Musk selling pipe dreams ? Pretty sure there is 0 plan for replacement.
aanet 55 minutes ago | parent
SMH
blahblaher 55 minutes ago | parent
SaucyWrong 51 minutes ago | parent
EDIT: I assume the bubble will collapse into correction eventually, sooner is better than later.
TheAlchemist 50 minutes ago | parent
NVidia doesn't need Jensen in the short / medium term - they are printing money. Unless we discover that all this circular financing was some kind of scheme.
We have 2 other companies though, Tesla and SpaceX, which CEO represents 90% of the valuation. That will be the real one.
GolfPopper 47 minutes ago | parent
I think this is one of those " the question is the answer" moments.
dabinat 53 minutes ago | parent
brewdad 23 minutes ago | parent
It’s the Dot Bomb days all over again.
justinai6 53 minutes ago | parent
Obviously, the affairs are a very serious issue, but the investigation needs to determine whether there were any security conflict of interest breaches
Let’s be clear: any abuse of power involving related-party relationships is wrong. Jensen should not get a “free pass” just because he’s Jensen. This is very serious.
Jensen’s leadership of the broader company is unparalleled, and replacing him would be nearly impossible. That step should only be taken when it’s extremely clear there is no other option. Even if the board does replace him, that brings significant risk, not just to NVIDIA but to all the other businesses connected to it. I hope a warning shot across the bow is enough for him to clean things up so everyone can get back to focusing on the work.
As for which way the board rules, the details are all that matter. When boards react emotionally, before a thorough investigation and before they have the full picture, they make bad decisions. They shouldn’t rush. They should investigate and dig into every detail.
Then make a decision. These decisions will carry enormous weight.
None of us really know the details. NVIDIA board: do your job and take it very seriously. Deliberately measure three times, cut once. Don’t spectate. The public likes/wants Hollywood drama, but what we really need is good corporate governance.
avazhi 46 minutes ago | parent
It’s just sex mate, it’s really not a big deal unless he giving favourable deals to his mistress’s company.
JumpCrisscross 44 minutes ago | parent
The investigation centered on Megaspeed, a data center company led by an executive who U.S. officials now believe to be a Chinese spy who had a relationship with Nvidia’s chief executive, Jensen Huang.
But the case was abruptly transferred to the Justice Department last year. The shift came after Commerce Department investigators working on the case received an email from Nvidia’s general counsel seeking information about the inquiry into Megaspeed" [1].
[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2026/11/09/business/economy/nvidia-m...
QuesnayJr 8 minutes ago | parent
afavour 7 minutes ago | parent
JumpCrisscross 45 minutes ago | parent
The Board–correctly–fears for themselves personally in a case involving Jensen's public and multinational corruption scheme.
shimman 11 minutes ago | parent
This is going to be easy political win. Jensen's only saving grace is that he is in bed with Trump so he won't be sitting behind in prison cell.
lvl256 21 minutes ago | parent
neuralkoi 13 minutes ago | parent
debo_ 51 minutes ago | parent
ProblemExplorer 51 minutes ago | parent
I hope he's allowed to do so. He now knows how not to get trapped into a tactically targeted honeypot, he knows the ins and outs of a GPU fab business plus he has all the connections.
This minus all the cruft and legacy overhead of a company as old as Nvidia. I'm now hoping he gets fired.
rogerrogerr 49 minutes ago | parent
xyzzy_plugh 46 minutes ago | parent
ProblemExplorer 45 minutes ago | parent
Because he can start a new company knowing everything that he got wrong the first time around, be able to hire absolute badass engineers who got fired from Nvidia because some Manager or HR thought they smelled wrong and was a hygiene risk, or quit Nvidia because they didn't like the work they were being assigned, be able to raise capital from investors who currently won't invest in Nvidia because of reasons, be able to strike new deals that hasn't happened because someone at Nvidia isn't letting them happen.
Nvidia is a very old company, not as old as Intel but close. Old companies build their own internal overhead you just cannot get rid of that would just kill a new company
blanched 43 minutes ago | parent
disiplus 40 minutes ago | parent
snowe2010 40 minutes ago | parent
Philpax 35 minutes ago | parent
lossolo 32 minutes ago | parent
And what do you mean by "the things he did wrong the first time"? NVIDIA was the most valuable company in the world at one point either this year or last year, and it's still in the top three. He did everything right from business perspective.
Exoristos 8 minutes ago | parent
ram1500natrluvr 48 minutes ago | parent
> Jensen Huang... also had an extramarital relationship with an executive who reports to him, according to five people who worked at the company.
dmitrygr 47 minutes ago | parent
grilledchickenw 43 minutes ago | parent
ram1500natrluvr 26 minutes ago | parent
Miraste 24 minutes ago | parent
blanched 41 minutes ago | parent
JumpCrisscross 48 minutes ago | parent
Sure. After he's done responding to the Congress and various investigators and his family, something I suspect will occupy a good part of his next decade.
ceejayoz 47 minutes ago | parent
Does he? Plenty of serial cheaters out there getting caught repeatedly.
jacquesm 47 minutes ago | parent
tomp 44 minutes ago | parent
xyzzy_plugh 43 minutes ago | parent
jacquesm 38 minutes ago | parent
lvl256 27 minutes ago | parent
threecheese 49 minutes ago | parent
JumpCrisscross 48 minutes ago | parent
One of the greatest failures of Nvidia's Board was in failing to push for a successor. (Musks' companies face a similar risk.)
KerrAvon 19 minutes ago | parent
SpaceX has Shotwell to cushion the blow. Tesla will obviously crash into the cellar the moment he OD's or gets thrown in jail for pedo shit.
ex-aws-dude 28 minutes ago | parent
It’s not like Jensen predicted it
Miraste 20 minutes ago | parent
magicalhippo 16 minutes ago | parent
Ok AMD had some financial woes, but it also has made a lot of less optimal technical and business decisions that were entirely unforced errors.
2OEH8eoCRo0 48 minutes ago | parent
giantfrog 47 minutes ago | parent
dmitrygr 45 minutes ago | parent
giantfrog 31 minutes ago | parent
taurath 17 minutes ago | parent
giantfrog 11 minutes ago | parent
user- 46 minutes ago | parent
Irattional things continue to be irrational i guess
dogscatstrees 45 minutes ago | parent
There's a different angle here worth listening to: https://youtu.be/IC3Kh40dEQY
xiphias2 45 minutes ago | parent
I don't agree with everything David Sachs says on the All in Podcast, but it looks like it's about political control over all frontier AI models from democrats.
echelon 40 minutes ago | parent
We cannot glue ourselves to the backs of OpenAI, Anthropic, and Google. We need to be anti-fragile and support a robust spectrum of AI inference being developed from all angles.
This would permanently wed us to a handful of vendors that will soak American businesses and innovators dry while their own products fail to reach the peak of what an open weights inclusive environment could lead to.
x13 32 minutes ago | parent
saberience 45 minutes ago | parent
whyenot 44 minutes ago | parent
at1as 44 minutes ago | parent
Dual-class share structures have become the defacto standard for founder led companies, giving founders disproportionate (even majority) voting power.
Someone like Zuckerberg effectively controls the board and would be extraordinarily difficult to oust against his wishes (absent some exceptional legal intervention or a decision to step aside)
lenerdenator 37 minutes ago | parent
Humans need someone to be accountable to, even if it’s just some guy walking behind you saying “memento mori” twice a day.
creato 34 minutes ago | parent
gpt5 20 minutes ago | parent
paulryanrogers 14 minutes ago | parent
ferguess_k 41 minutes ago | parent
I even wonder whether some elements within the Chinese government has a hand in it -- not (only) the mistress part but the ousting part.
TheBlight 38 minutes ago | parent
sparkling 23 minutes ago | parent
1/ China is still interested in chips
2/ Chip exports to China will now (presumably) be under even more scrutiny
What would their motivation be to leak this info?
ghtbircshotbe 17 minutes ago | parent
bigwheels 41 minutes ago | parent
zero_shift 37 minutes ago | parent
It's NVIDIA being sued because they defrauded investors by including illicit chip sales in their Q3 figures
Stevvo 36 minutes ago | parent
int32_64 35 minutes ago | parent
JumpCrisscross 31 minutes ago | parent
Folks running to blow whistles when they realize they're involved in something they may pay the price for isn't new.
(Also, have you seen our IC recently? The days of the CIA running a competent conspiracy, if they ever existed, are long behind us.)
[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2026/11/09/business/economy/nvidia-m...
lostlogin 27 minutes ago | parent
Wasn’t the swap drained in 2016 too?
paulryanrogers 17 minutes ago | parent
Within weeks I saw the naked racism and left the whole party behind. Having learned more about Trump and Republicans since has been ... humiliating after decades of voting 'R'.
bdhe 5 minutes ago | parent
I can imagine people souring over lack of follow through on economic promises, or the naked corruption with your $coins, but from a racism/xenophobia/morals perspective, I'd feel like most of the signal was there in the 2016 campaign was it not?
gr_norm 22 minutes ago | parent
Now that's something I'd like everyone to believe, if I was the CIA.
bigyabai 16 minutes ago | parent
stickfigure 9 minutes ago | parent
dralley 5 minutes ago | parent
atleastoptimal 31 minutes ago | parent
raincole 30 minutes ago | parent
theptip 11 minutes ago | parent
What they care about is the US leading China on every militarily and economically relevant technology.
The hawks have long chafed at Huang’s position that we need to sell our best chips to China to keep them on the US tech stack. It’s very obviously giving them the ability to catch up.
stingraycharles 5 minutes ago | parent
epolanski 2 minutes ago | parent
Energy is the hard part, and US is deeply behind on that.
pryce 4 minutes ago | parent
If I ignore the words, and instead observe behaviour, all of the actions I observe indicate the opposite;potential competitors are treated as very credible threats, even existential ones; and actions indicate that 'maintaining special access to hardware' and 'vying for regulatory capture to shut out competition' are major strategic goals.
Opp64849 27 minutes ago | parent
noeltock 26 minutes ago | parent
afavour 24 minutes ago | parent
You’re looking for a conspiracy when this is a pretty straightforward story. Jensen’s credibility is shot. Of course they’re preparing contingency plans.
techblueberry 11 minutes ago | parent
jatora 8 minutes ago | parent
afavour 2 minutes ago | parent
The first story came from sources close to the White House, or something along those lines. Makes sense since it was a national security issue. The second story is internal to the company.
hn_throwaway_99 20 minutes ago | parent
Huang had an affair with a Chinese spy, as well as an affair with someone he manages. Either one of these would be grounds for dismissal at any company I've worked at. Committing both of these offenses shows appalling judgment by Huang.
Firing him seems like a very logical conclusion, not some CIA Illuminati bullshit conspiracy theory.
ml-anon 13 minutes ago | parent
bigyabai 3 minutes ago | parent
This scandal has felt like a litmus test for free market idealists vs realpolitik thinkers. Nvidia's board and Trump both knew about the spying allegations for over a year, allegedly. This is not a situation you can navigate with strong principles or a moral compass, you just have to follow the money.
qlte 8 minutes ago | parent
rgbrenner 13 minutes ago | parent
Nvidia has a large market share, but AMD, Google, Microsoft, Amazon, Meta, OpenAI, Qualcomm all produce AI chips... these are all American companies.
tom910 35 minutes ago | parent
benguild 34 minutes ago | parent
pixelpoet 22 minutes ago | parent
bilekas 13 minutes ago | parent
aanet 33 minutes ago | parent
That's a tautology, of course. And the board should have been doing its job handling the key man in question
It's most obvious in hindsight, obviously. Across the history of such governance debacles.
biggestriverman 30 minutes ago | parent
TPUs and AWS's Trainium seem to be at least in the ballpark of being competitive but does that matter at all?
ares623 26 minutes ago | parent
LarsDu88 30 minutes ago | parent
The thing is, this is just what's been reported. There's almost certainly more going on if 2 affairs are public disclosure. If there is a sexual harassment angle here as well, he's toast.
LightBug1 26 minutes ago | parent
I mean, that's acceptable these days isn't it?
elmer2 23 minutes ago | parent
class3shock 22 minutes ago | parent
Also to all the people saying how terrible this will be, would you really want someone running your company who can't keep his word to his wife? Maybe it is a quaint idea in 2026 but I think people who break their word shouldn't be trusted, particularly to be in positions of power.
ares623 21 minutes ago | parent
mthewood 20 minutes ago | parent
galleywest200 17 minutes ago | parent
mthewood 7 minutes ago | parent
You can also argue that he wasn't aware n as far as he knew this was just a company in Singapore. It will be interesting how it plays out based on the facts.
cft 18 minutes ago | parent
golbez9 16 minutes ago | parent
yakbarber 13 minutes ago | parent
allen3 13 minutes ago | parent
zhyder 13 minutes ago | parent
thrownawaysz 13 minutes ago | parent
He knowingly helped advance China’s AI ambitions against the direction of congress. He got caught selling 7.5 Billion dollars of restricted chips to china.
Also he cheated on his wife with some Chinese woman, which is a totally separate and unrelated fuck up.
If you seriously think he got tricked by some random woman who batted her eyes, you are out of your mind. He founded the fucking company, he isn’t some clueless executive. He’s also not senile and he doesn’t have dementia. This is the only viable excuse for him to use, but it’s complete bullshit.
Think about it: He betrayed his longtime wife, who by all accounts supported him from the beginning. He betrayed his company and its shareholders. And he betrayed his country (BOTH of his countries?) who specifically forbid the chips to be sold to china. He’s fucked
csense 11 minutes ago | parent
Did he know she was a spy?
Did he give her any secrets?
Did he break up with her after finding out she's a spy?
Was she trained as a spy and sent to entrap him specifically? Or did she form a relationship with him, then get told by the Chinese Communist Party "Xi wants you to steal him some secrets from your boyfriend. This is an offer you can't refuse; spy for us or your family in China will be beaten, jailed or worse"?
Is he a victim or an asset? Is she a willing patriotic spy for China, or a victim of blackmail from the Chinese Communist Party? Has she been arrested as a spy, or did she make it to the Chinese embassy before the story broke?
My feeling is he shouldn't be ousted if he took the honey but didn't fall for the trap. OTOH if he passed her company secrets, that's presumably a fireable offense for anyone lower on the totem pole; it's only fair for a CEO to get fired for the same.
Metacelsus 11 minutes ago | parent
Alien1Being 8 minutes ago | parent
Honeytrap.
Reveal the information to a trusted journalist.
Destroy Huang's credibility.
Force his resignation.
Damage Nvidia.
China moves further in the AI game.
Game set and match. Sounds like this might have been China's real goal.