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He is very hands on. He has more direct reports than other other tech CEOs. I think close to 40. Someone else stepping up or stepping in has things to do.

In addition Nvidia is incredibly tech-heavy company. You need another EE with experience with AI chip design and business. Just having good experienced businessman looking at simplified powerpoints before making decisions of technical issues is probably not enough.

Brin was absolutely next level.

Musk isnt married.

Musk is also very "out" about it. Kinda like how it's okay to be gay in the CIA, as long as you're out. Being in the closet gets you fired because it makes you blackmailable.

It's also very common for executives to get fired for affairs with direct reports. Kind of a cultural issue.

If by "this" you mean the affair with Powell, probably not much difference between Jensen Huang's affair with Powell and affairs that Gates, Bezos, and Brin have reportedly had.

But the extramarital affair with Alice Huang is quite different. NYTimes reports that Alice Huang is a Chinese spy, with whom Jensen Huang may have conspired to break the law, selling advanced NVIDIA chips to China. That affair puts the whole company at extreme legal risk. Gates, Bezos, and Brin have nothing like this on their records that I'm aware of.

As I write this, the top post on HN speculates that this is "the tip of the iceberg," indicating that there at least may be more affairs yet to be uncovered, and, plausibly, Jensen Huang may have committed even more enormous mistakes with serious consequences for NVIDIA.

I remember Mark Hurd, who was hired by Oracle after HP ran him out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Hurd

Rest in peace.

Bill Gates was pushed out https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/microsoft-board-decided-...

If there are ants in your kitchen they might be coming in due to rain outside.

You can leave sugar water in strategic places and then follow the ant trail to track where they are coming in.

Probably there will be an entire trail of ants in the morning - not just two. You can then track the place where they are coming in and block up the entrance point.

I really can't understand what it's trying to convey...

Not much different from other industries, other than scale and reach. Took many decades to regulate out killing workers and customers for profit, some are still barely regulated.

Well one of them was a Chinese spy for starters. He's a compromised individual.

pretending to be a family man while doing it.

This is a great question, just not in the way you meant it

The being compromised part and bringing your decision making into question, if you're asking

“Billionaire” is largely a responsibility the market gives you: you have to command billions in capital. It’s actually a job a the end of the day.

We should have high standards for who is allowed to have this job. Huang should be replaced as easily and quickly as any mid-level executive who costs his company 340 billion in market cap.

The difference is that Intel had a policy against it. Brian was having a relationship at the time they made the policy and it took months for him to wind it down

They used it against him 7 years later. He wasn't ousted because of his relationship. It's just the tool they used.

Also he wasn't CEO at the time of his relationship.

It also wasn't an affair. He was single at the time.

Marriage/long term coupling is not "natural" but normal in society

With the decline in religious attendance has come a decline in marriage; from 70%+ to 50%ish over the last couple generations

But divorce rate has declined so those that do marry seem to really want it; in the before times though it was how women survived

Coupling fits with biological imperative to have partners but longterm/for life is obviously not necessary since divorce is common too, partners die, etc

That and recent research shows long term married couples are 50% more likely to develop dementia; an imbalance in effort develops where one becomes codependent and forgets how to live and the partner in charge loses grip of themselves and taking care of their partner consumes them.

it's also possible the wife knew and was okay with it

my wife and I date other people, you'd be surprised how big the ENM/Poly community is when you start looking

So you don't think the world's most powerful and richest people engage in infidelity more often than the guy that cleans the toilets at the local gas station?

every argument that attempts to humanize and 'us too' these types of folks (billionaires that own islands and ultra-yachts) totally bewilders me.

> it’s that they are not that different from other people

For this conclusion to be valid, you have to provide the proportion of tech ceos who cheat.

That number would be dramatically higher in scenarios where men had desirable women basically throwing themselves at them, which is the case for the extremely wealthy. This somehow reminds me of the Churchill joke:

    Churchill: Madam, would you sleep with me for $1 million?
    Woman: Why Winston, yes I would.
    Churchill: How about $10?
    Woman: What sort of woman do you think I am?
    Churchill: We've already established that. Now we're just negotiating the price.

And I think this is all a logical consequence of evolution, which is driven solely by fertility. A woman can only carry one child at a time and so it makes sense for them to seek a highly qualified/'resourceful' partner to have the most chance of her genes being successfully carried forward, whereas a man can theoretically father hundreds of children in a single year, so it makes sense for him to be more 'driven.'

Studies show percentages all the way up to 40-50%, depending on methodologies and definitions.

They all are. No Jensen connections at all. All from finance or non related business.

Or Nvidia comes out of this damaged but not nearly as much as if they were glued to Jensen. "Superstar" CEOs that have complete control over a company are only benefits until they become enormous risks.

There is no way that would have been possible. And as I saw another commenter mention, even if NVidia were founded much more recently when dual share structures became much more common, you rarely (or maybe never, I can't think of any cases) see that dual share structure in very capital intensive industries like hardware where you have to sink a ton of money into the enterprise before you even see any revenue. Software is a whole different ball game.

Do you really think there is no issue with a person in a position of power engaging in an affair with a subordinate?

Well seeing how he also had an affair with a Chinese spy and broke federal law in assisting the Chinese government to access to billions of dollars worth of frontier AI chips, it's a little more than just worrying about extramarital affairs.

This is why you should only do one shitty thing at a time and not multiple.

It is inappropriate to have relationships with subordinates.

It's not "another employee" it's a direct report, a power imbalance so cliched that it's the first dot point in any HR/P&C management course

The Chinese spy who he was having sex with and probably helping break export controls and smuggle Nvidia tech into China through singapore is probably a bigger deal than this one

Of course. Find allegations which will stick, short, leak the allegations.

Then Investor lawsuit kick off, more allegations, a big drop, profit. Then "oh well", "can't prove it".

This was all immensely quick, putting together an investor's lawsuit this fast, other allegations waiting...

It's almost as if someone had the lawsuit ready to go.

That's funny, I've met men who think it isn't fair and wish we got a title change too!

>especially when we don't do the same for men.

I was always taught it was 'Master' for unmarried and young men.

I'm 55 years old and never thought about that, because the link never occurred to me.

But when Mrs first stood for Mistress, the word Mistress wasn't "loaded" at all.

I never knew Mrs. stood for "mistress", I always thought it just came from "Mr's", as in, the wife of some mister

> "Mistress" is a loaded word

Only in English.

I always thought that it was Mrs. = missus, Ms. = miz, at least that’s how I would say them, but I now realize that a) that’s plainly incorrect and b) I’ve never actually ever seen them non-abbreviated.

If an abbreviation is never expanded, is it still an abbreviation? Personally I think it isn’t; I advocate for condensing i.e./e.g. to simply ie and eg, though this is a minority opinion.

Wow, I truly had no idea and thought Mrs. was always supposed to be used for married women. Thanks!

This applies mostly to the US, to a lesser extent to the UK, and to a much lesser extent (or not at all) to the dozen or so other Anglosphere countries.

But as we all know, the US is all that matters, so you may as well state outright that it “is so”, and move on.

>It is generally considered polite to address a woman by Ms. rather than Mrs., unless the preference of the woman in question is clearly known.

Hm. Weird. Never seen that before. Let's check the source, emilypost.com:

>Mx. Is the universal title that can be used by anyone. It is gender non-identifying. Even if you identify specifically with a gender you may still use Mx. and you may see Mx. used when the sender is unaware of your title.

https://emilypost.com/advice/guide-to-addressing-corresponde...

OK, im out. I'm immediately out.

In many places, the law doesn't allow for the woman to take the man's name. Only children's family name can be decided.

If you see two ants in kitchen, actual count is not 2!

I don't really care that much about Jensen being an unfaithful husband. That kind of pales in comparison to hoarding hundreds of billions of dollars. And as far as "paid encounters" go - I would hope no one uses this as an opportunity to tell me prostitution is unethical.

I dont think this is sex level. A date or kissing seems more likely. You can see all reports including rumors didnt talk about sex part.

Oh the horror! Let's hope he doesn't enjoy it while he's doing it too. I can only bear so much.

Nah - it's the style, the vibe of his presence.

People don't see the money, the global geopolitical issues at stake - they see the man - they see the jacket.

The wealth will come, but only after you get the jacket first.

Sure, the spy lady sex story is relevant but this is a different non-spy woman.

Shouldn't be if the other person is an adult and there were no high pressure tactics.

It's actually illegal in 16 states ....

https://www.newsweek.com/map-shows-16-states-where-its-illeg...

it's a power thing - yeah he could go to an escort, but then it becomes only about money. He wants these relationships as a proof of his power; then walking around in public is to flaunt the power, the 'you can't do me nothing, look at me'. Power is the drug.

> It's like saying "haha that guy named Ryan Johnson was adulterous because his surname is slang for a penis!"

That's totally a joke people would make. Joking about nominative determinism happens all the time.

Do we live under Sharia law? I didn't realize infidelity was a crime

destroying the world hasn't yet set a precedent that made CEOs (and the investors under their umbrella) weary of an alimony payout.