121 points smalltech 1 hour ago 73 comments
steveBK123 1 hour ago | parent
And now you get results like this.
intrasight 58 minutes ago | parent
Horffupolde 54 minutes ago | parent
xyzsparetimexyz 49 minutes ago | parent
progforlyfe 40 minutes ago | parent
No AI, no leet code, just old fashioned gauging someone's experience and communication skills.
nzjrs 26 minutes ago | parent
intrasight 13 minutes ago | parent
gilrain 36 minutes ago | parent
hnlmorg 19 minutes ago | parent
raincole 12 minutes ago | parent
gosub100 7 minutes ago | parent
Also in the mid 90s, you actually had to be smart to work in this field. There was no stack overflow or reddit to search. And CS programs were nascent.
Companies certainly have taken it too far, but I don't blame them for some usage of standard tests.
xutopia 1 hour ago | parent
I even create a 1 man company for my consulting services and I receive ads about how people at my company saved me a spot on an online game.
LinkedIn is partially responsible for their neglect here.
mynegation 1 hour ago | parent
Jianghong94 1 hour ago | parent
voakbasda 1 hour ago | parent
Jianghong94 56 minutes ago | parent
james_marks 1 hour ago | parent
CommanderData 1 hour ago | parent
There are tools available to stop AI screen recording tools, fake candidate tools yet many companies keep getting hit..
lbriner 57 minutes ago | parent
Unfortunately:
1) The dev downloaded it onto a work laptop which was really poor behaviour
2) It sounds like the developer environment was very open instead of segmented. Common but an easy control to use in a high-risk environment.
3) Sounds like a lack of any elevation process e.g. if a developer needed to access a wallet, it very much should sound an alarm/require explicit permission etc.
But it is easy to be wise in hindsight.
CommanderData 48 minutes ago | parent
On the other end, when doing interviews I suspect 40-50% of candidates use AI assistant tools (might be skewed in tech).
I do miss seeing someone's camera feed break or AI tool break down mid interview.
HelloUsername 1 hour ago | parent
kittikitti 57 minutes ago | parent
bilekas 54 minutes ago | parent
jimmydoe 52 minutes ago | parent
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paxy 48 minutes ago | parent
podocarp 42 minutes ago | parent
jstanley 41 minutes ago | parent
999900000999 21 minutes ago | parent
At several companies I’ve seen folks run torrents to watch movies at work.
Once I was on a Zoom call, and I noticed music production software on my colleagues computer.
When I pointed it out, they responded with something like “ Ohh, my kids make music.”
Neat, I guess.
aleph_minus_one 6 minutes ago | parent
We are talking about highly educated people who work in software development (i.e. can assumed to have some minimum viable knowledge about computers), and not about the dumbest imaginable users.
gadders 15 minutes ago | parent
I think Binance needs to start having IT Security like a bank as well.
AlexITC 10 minutes ago | parent
I don't know how people are ok using their personal accounts on work-laptops full of spyware.
genidoi 7 minutes ago | parent
dayvid 6 minutes ago | parent
sva_ 38 minutes ago | parent
https://isc.sans.edu/diary/32942
It is kind of weird that they mention it though, if they replaced the devices and rotated credentials? Just to later mention that an "internal AI tool" was used to steal that Engineer As credentials again?
And also, what are those "obfuscation techniques"? It looks very straight forward, replacing the pyenv, there's nothing much obfuscated in it? Except for putting it in a different folder.
BigTTYGothGF 33 minutes ago | parent
ChrisArchitect 33 minutes ago | parent
FLeXMurphy 30 minutes ago | parent
moralestapia 27 minutes ago | parent
They have a massive incentive to invent a story to cover up the incident. I'm not saying it's a cover-up, but the motive is definitely there.
North Korea has denied responsibility, whereas they usually own up to their actions.
Disregarding that, it just doesn't make sense for their internal security to be so lax.
I've worked at big companies but with AUM lower than Binance, a lot of control and safeguards are in place to prevent one "rogue" employee from stealing everything. It's pretty much impossible for a company like Binance to not have implemented such things.
I do not buy it.
fraywing 27 minutes ago | parent
It's one of the reason ojcp exists.
armcat 19 minutes ago | parent
gosen 14 minutes ago | parent
aleph_minus_one 12 minutes ago | parent
I mean: if you even consider leaving your current company, you better leave no traces of your plan on your work laptop: you either use a private laptop or, even better, some burner laptop/computer that you reset afterwards.
AlexITC 12 minutes ago | parent
In one of these many calls I got to see the face from the other side but lasted a few seconds only. Then he claimed that internet was bad and suggested we continued without video.
In this case they claim it was a 2 rounds interview with video turned on to simulate a more normal recruiting process.
Of course all of us are prone to get caught with the shield off but what surprises me is that the targeted dev took the challenge in the device from work.
gandreani 12 minutes ago | parent
That's a huge red-flag. In a company of this size, the deployments should be via CI only. CI isn't just to increase the speed and reliability of deployments but also to provide a clean room to build the software! Even if it's a token that was copied and pasted temporarily, the systems in place should not have to require this type of 1. copy 2. paste 3. remember-to-delete the token from my PC.
Also, Binance should be paying for intrusion testing. Better to pay a trusted company to do this kind of thing instead of letting North Korea show you how it's done. I don't think this exact exploit path would have been found but I bet the intrusion testing would have figured out another way to use Engineer C's token.
AlexITC 9 minutes ago | parent
throwitaway222 11 minutes ago | parent
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gadders 5 minutes ago | parent
Both candidate and recruiter have to call Kim Jong Un a big fat tosser (other swearwords are available) on a recorded video before the interview continues.