36 points cherioo 2 hours ago 32 comments

flippant 1 hour ago | parent

I switched to herdr this year after a decade of using tmux, and I haven't looked back since. Herdr is wonderful, not only because of the coding agent integrations, but also because it uses libghostty under the hood. So no terminal-emulator-inside-another-terminal-emulator shenanigans.

If you prefer GUIs, I can recommend herdr-gpui which connects to a herdr daemon. It has a bunch of goodies like remote phone pairing, and a built-in browser integration to send screenshots and notes to coding agents.

https://github.com/penso/herdr-gpui

FluffyPancake 56 minutes ago | parent

> Herdr is wonderful, not only because of the coding agent integrations, but also because it uses libghostty under the hood. So no terminal-emulator-inside-another-terminal-emulator shenanigans.

Now I’m interested. Does it have basic feature parity? How does it compare to tmux in your experience?

yoyohello13 55 minutes ago | parent

I've been using Zellij a long time and considered using Herdr, but the VC funding aspect scares me. I don't want to invest a bunch of time in a tool that's going to treat me as a product.

skinfaxi 52 minutes ago | parent

It's open source so if that changes you can always fork? I already have some personalizations accruing on my fork.

desireco42 44 minutes ago | parent

I used Zellij in the past, it is also fantastic and intuitive product. I had issues with... I think selection and copying and pasting which made me abandon it as I was getting frustrated. Herdr has been wonderful and I've been using it for a while.

sangupta 1 hour ago | parent

Haven't used Herdr before - was looking at README and was looking to check screenshots and documentation. However, Chrome reports the SSL cert to the site https://herdr.dev as invalid. Will wait till it gets resolved.

skinfaxi 49 minutes ago | parent

pupppet 1 hour ago | parent

How does it compare to CMUX?

desireco42 1 hour ago | parent

I don't think I need it, but Herdr has been absolutely rock solid for me. And I have this app Pairfob that I can check things up on the phone if I really want to. And while I don't use it quite as often, seems to be more solid then Chatgpt (Codex) and other apps.

I have 2 machines and laptop linked together and running things have never been easier.

tiffanyh 1 hour ago | parent

What’s the planned monetization model for all the terminal multiplexers backed by VC funding like Herdr, Rex, etc?

adamisnotroman 56 minutes ago | parent

I think they are all planning to make money on selling cloud or inference

skinfaxi 51 minutes ago | parent

If the terminal is just a screen to a remote, they will sell you the remote, completely integrated into the harness.

oefrha 11 minutes ago | parent

Being acquired for $10B by $1T companies.

Skunkleton 59 minutes ago | parent

There is a Windows 98 mode w/ minesweeper, solitaire, and clippy!

Edit: oh neat! Its self editing.

adamisnotroman 57 minutes ago | parent

Yep it’s awesome. I’m going to integrate the core engine to my mobile app so I can control it remotely.

skinfaxi 48 minutes ago | parent

Collie already does pretty well. https://github.com/AltanS/collie

blntechie 18 minutes ago | parent

Just termius + tmux works for me on my Android phone and iPad. I have a ntfy topic to alert from Pi when it needs something.

jbellis 56 minutes ago | parent

If you like Herdr, you might also appreciate https://github.com/BrokkAi/mjolnir/, which is similar in its multiplexing features (although built on ACP) but offers cross-provider subagents, memory and session log sync, live migration of sessions across profiles and providers, and load balancing across multiple subscriptions.

Hitech-Redneck 47 minutes ago | parent

I've been holding this at arms length. Interested, but I'm so stuck on tmux.

DaSHacka 40 minutes ago | parent

Darn, title had me thinking they released a mobile app to compliment the TUI daemon.

termux+mosh is fine, but especially on a phone I'd love a slightly more intuitive (or really, efficient) UI. Especially as mosh breaks touch/mouse input on the remote host.

I've never understood the point of the desktop GUI harnesses to run TUI (or at the very least, primarily text-based) programs anyway, but perhaps they're better for onboarding less tech-savvy users.

sooheon 29 minutes ago | parent

Have you tried moshi? It’s Herdr aware.

Tui-in-guis like orca are nice mostly because of sensible keybinds without prefix or leader

adamisnotroman 25 minutes ago | parent

try cosyra mobile. Its the best mobile client for herdr. It uses websocket and is has a really smooth ux.

ziofill 37 minutes ago | parent

> Usage telemetry is on by default in releases. Turn it off in Settings → Privacy.

Probably a good idea if you work with sensitive data (and you’re already on Zero Data Retention)

game_the0ry 35 minutes ago | parent

This is the first time I have even hear of Herdr, and I try to make an effort to follow ai.

It's getting very difficult to keep up with all the agent harnesses coming out. I love ai but wow its hard to keep up.

ramraj07 29 minutes ago | parent

Herdr is not exactly obscure. I would argue your effort to follow ai hasn’t been that effective.

yodon 31 minutes ago | parent

A native app is definitely a good thing.

herdr is great, and the original runs-in-a-terminal vision was cool, but at least on OSX it has a ton of selection management bugs that are pretty sucky.

oefrha 25 minutes ago | parent

Supports SSH to remote machines out of the box, cool. I wonder if the protocol is more efficient than the TUI over SSH, would be nice on crappy connections when traveling.

adamisnotroman 22 minutes ago | parent

the poor experience on a crappy network connection is an SSH problem unfortunately

oefrha 17 minutes ago | parent

It is, but if you send more efficient deltas, batch packets more intelligently, and introduce non-blocking UI tricks, the experience can be improved by quite a bit. mosh demonstrates some of that.

mark_l_watson 20 minutes ago | parent

Nice! I have been using herdr for a few months, love it and for me it is a step up from years using tmux. The new native Herdr app is yet another step up. I use multiple Macs with Tailscale connections and the Herdr app makes jumping around to different projects and different machines easier.

jauntywundrkind 14 minutes ago | parent

Which of these various new multiplexers (herdr, cmux, etc) work over ssh, and which have protocols underneath?

I've been scripting tmux for a while now, and it's not the greatest. And when I have a bunch of opencode sessions rolling along often my tmux could usage is smoking. I'd be happy to try other things. But I'd way rather get into something with protocols, that is open to play.

lucas_the_human 4 minutes ago | parent

I love herdr, nice work team!