Yet another Hacker News

Leak Exposes 41,000 Homeland Security Workers–Including Undercover ICE Agents

173 points Aboutplants 1 hour ago 58 comments

righthand 1 hour ago | parent

This should already be public information imo.

derac 1 hour ago | parent

Yes, why do we have undercover domestic spies and enforcers? Is that something we want? Vote!

mitxela 49 minutes ago | parent

We did vote, we voted for this and got what we voted for.

2OEH8eoCRo0 46 minutes ago | parent

That's definitely why Trump is -27 net approval.

shipman05 37 minutes ago | parent

That's just buyers remorse. He told us how he intended to govern. His opponent told us how he intended to govern. The voters were not mislead.

(and his approval would be the same mid 40s it always was if gas prices were reasonable)

fnordpiglet 26 minutes ago | parent

He’s never achieved a majority vote in any election, FWIW. His claim of a mandate was just as brazen as all the other litany of lies - he’s a lame duck lame duck. The true shame is on the congressional republicans for letting him sully them so deeply and follow him in his self immolation of the entire government and America in the world. The rebuilding will be a major test of the successor, and it’ll be fascinating to see if the Goldwater republicans can become the party of reason again rather than this reality TV idiocracy.

exe34 15 minutes ago | parent

This is not idiocracy. It's the prequel. In idiocracy, they understood that they were dumb and put the smart guy in charge.

evan_ 6 minutes ago | parent

for 20 minutes, and then they tried to kill him

JumpCrisscross 35 minutes ago | parent

It’s not. It’s because he took inflation to the Moon. If he hadn’t had Hegseth at his side, and hadn’t gone into Iran, he’d probably still be treading water.

fnordpiglet 33 minutes ago | parent

And won via a plurality after losing the popular vote in the last election. The least popular president in history can’t win a majority of popular vote. It’s not shocking he’s deeply unpopular, he never was popular. He’s a won twice on a technicality of the republic created to ensure the rural states wouldn’t be dominated by Virginia in the original establishment of the union.

He’s a pariah everywhere on earth, most especially at home. The sad part is the democrats couldn’t mount a successful campaign against someone so unfit to lead. Now there’s nothing left to do but clean up the mess and undo the terrible harm he has caused and repair what can be once he’s finally out of our hair.

_AzMoo 43 minutes ago | parent

Eligible voter turnout in 2024 was <50% for 18-24 year olds, and <65% for 25-44 year olds in the US.

deadbunny 39 minutes ago | parent

Unless 100% of people vote it doesnt count as voting?

asanineassasin 27 minutes ago | parent

Any idea is worth entertaining, to avoid the realization the purity spiraling ideology is just as reviled by 90 % of the people as is racism.

_DeadFred_ 26 minutes ago | parent

Because people in safe demographics (non minority, no care about reproductive rights) love to broadcast 'both sides are the same'.

NoidFonsense 8 minutes ago | parent

I just don't like left wing politics or left-leaning people or their attitudes. I know a lot of people from diverse backgrounds, and they generally all tend to think the same way.

I don't think the last presidential election indicates some massive support for this mediocre right-wing campaign. It mostly just indicates poor performance of the democratic party, which is the only other viable (?) option.

I dont think you can pinpoint any specific issue that could be tweaked, its a larger cultural shift. Like I think like obama was probably the last democratic candidate that was actually badass and people liked. He was good at giving speeches and stuff. But the left wing of today is pretty grossly detached, I think there was something about losing the 2016 election that brought the control freaks out.

Blackthorn 7 minutes ago | parent

The New England Patriots lost the 2026 Superbowl, and that list of losers includes all the second and third stringers who didn't play.

IgorPartola 6 minutes ago | parent

I think my idea for this is that a candidate doesn’t win the election unless they get more than 50% of all eligible votes, not 50% of the votes cast. If there is no clear winner the seat is vacant, but a new election is scheduled for two weeks later. Districts and states that don’t care to vote simply don’t get a say.

phs318u 1 hour ago | parent

This is a dupe. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50280691

The Techdirt article also links to the searchable front end to the dump.

https://icepi.cx/

paaloeye 58 minutes ago | parent

Not really

phs318u 53 minutes ago | parent

Yes really.

nvr219 41 minutes ago | parent

Maybe really.

Jtsummers 29 minutes ago | parent

Per dang in many previous comments, it's not a dupe. Multiple submissions of the same topic are fine, it's only (maybe) a dupe when a discussion starts or it's actually the same submission. You linked to a submission with 0 comments submitted a whopping 15 minutes earlier. This one is the one that got traction, neither is a dupe. If someone submits it again, now that there is a discussion, or submits the same Wired article, then those would be dupes.

paaloeye 24 minutes ago | parent

wired vs something I've personally never heard before article vs a few paragraphs + image

Not really.

ck2 1 hour ago | parent

Not sure how I feel about this but I am sure about one thing

There should never ever be a masked police force in this country, it's disgusting

Think about all the things we've written off in the past two years and faded from the news

Like military helicopters landing on a city building and them blowing the doors off all the apartments dragging everyone from their apartments

And all bets are off for the next two years, looks like Dems will get the Senate but even then they can't stop the scorched-earth that is coming

drop_star 1 hour ago | parent

Remember when these people had issues wearing masks (Covid). Now all of a sudden its not a problem.

ck2 1 hour ago | parent

I am not so sure people started saying "this is fine"

more like he started 1000 other fires, several each week if not a new one each day to make far worse problems

It's not just the most corrupt administration, it's the most chaos and definitely by design

btw all investigations dropped for the execution of two citizens, I mean that's definitely not fine with anyone, just way too many other problems going on now at the same time

well there's no statute of limitations on murder at least, so 800 more days

ryandrake 1 hour ago | parent

> well there's no statute of limitations on murder at least, so 800 more days

This assumes The Other Side will do anything if they do get into power. My prediction: A milquetoast moderate leads the (D)'s and declares: "In the interest of unity and moving forward, we will not go after anyone in the previous administration. Let us all hold hands and get past this with minimal drama... They have pinkey promised they will never behave this way again when they get to power, and we believe them."

pixelatedindex 1 hour ago | parent

It feels more like a reverse psyop, like “look we are wearing masks now, isn’t this what you wanted”?

As long as the sides keep reducing common ground, the farther away from government for the people, by the people we go.

bediger4000 1 hour ago | parent

Again, let's think of two children fighting over their shares of a cookie. Child A says he should get all of the cookie. Child B says that wouldn't be fair, the cookie should be split evenly, half and half.

The adult in the room decides to promote common ground, and gives 75% of the cookie to A and 25% to B.

denkmoon 27 minutes ago | parent

who exactly is the adult in the room supposed to be in this analogy? There _is_ no adult in the room, just the two children.

thrance 5 minutes ago | parent

[delayed]

toomuchtodo 52 minutes ago | parent

It's wrong when they feel like it infringes on them, it's okay when it empowers and emboldens them to cause harm to others without repercussions.

havnagiggle 1 hour ago | parent

The Senate can hold people in contempt with a 50% vote. So they could do something to reign in the fascists starting January, but I'm not holding my breath. And that's still a long road.

ck2 1 hour ago | parent

Senate has no mechanism to prosecute contempt charges

That goes to the DOJ, which of course means nothing happens, at least for next 800 days

taylorfinley 37 minutes ago | parent

It's my understanding they can detain under the inherent contempt power, it's been reported [0] that the House has a jail that can be readied if needed.

[0] https://rollcall.com/2019/05/08/just-where-is-this-secret-ho...

jfengel 56 minutes ago | parent

That opens a can of worms that you're never going to close.

Maybe this is such an emergency that it's worth the risk. But the risk is extremely high; if you do it to them, even with the best of reasons, they are going to do it back to you for any reason they can think of.

anon84873628 45 minutes ago | parent

Hence why it is important to be thorough.

Plus they will do it anyway. There is no shame or honor regulating their behavior.

Accountability is what was missed last time and is the only way forward.

nilamo 4 minutes ago | parent

Good! Both sides should be prosecuting each other over violating the constitution.

mitxela 49 minutes ago | parent

I doubt the Dems in office want to stop any of it

nonethewiser 41 minutes ago | parent

Many will say that they wouldn’t need to protect their safety and privacy if they werent doing something wrong.

But in terms of if its ever appropriate for law enforcement to wear masks, isnt the question if its ever possible to threaten a law enforcement officers safety who isnt doing something wrong?

The FEDs wear masks in cartel operations all the time and that seems fine.

ethin 6 minutes ago | parent

I'm not really sure what your getting at. The entire reason that masked LEs are opposed is because (1) it makes it impossible to hold them to account and (2) it makes it trivial to impersonate any LE (ICE hasn't exactly tried all that hard to make special gear for themselves, just buying what's on EBay and similar, so literally anyone could just buy the same gear they're using and impersonate an ICE officer, and since ICE doesn't like identifying themselves, you would have no immediate way of distinguishing between a random citizen who wants to ruff you up or murder you versus a LEO)

sheepscreek 35 minutes ago | parent

Anytime I see one I can’t shake off the feeling I got when I first saw Watchmen. I thought “this is so dystopian and bizarre; so out there”. Didn’t have this in my bingo card for the decade.

xvxvx 1 hour ago | parent

In a note with the files, the hackers wrote, “They have our information, so it's only fair that we have theirs.”

I mean, they’re not wrong…

dools 40 minutes ago | parent

Sucked in

JumpCrisscross 33 minutes ago | parent

Can you search for agents near me?

camel_gopher 26 minutes ago | parent

Local agents want to meet you.

liveoneggs 30 minutes ago | parent

what was the okta config error?

wigster 11 minutes ago | parent

oh dear

tamimio 11 minutes ago | parent

What an interesting times, a hack the “exposes” people who are supposedly and should be publicly known to start with.

mnd999 6 minutes ago | parent

Boo hoo

Arubis 6 minutes ago | parent

Fuck ‘em.