274 points guitcastro 2 hours ago 114 comments
SideburnsOfDoom 2 hours ago | parent
ChrisArchitect 2 hours ago | parent
Meta employees say Lula’s accounts restricted in Brazil election
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50227639
Lula wins election after final votes tallied
brandonagr2 2 hours ago | parent
ceejayoz 1 hour ago | parent
vrganj 1 hour ago | parent
crummy 1 hour ago | parent
Aurornis 1 hour ago | parent
selectodude 2 hours ago | parent
sjdh76 1 hour ago | parent
motoboi 1 hour ago | parent
Banality of the evil. Hannah Arendt.
antonvs 1 hour ago | parent
shrubby 1 hour ago | parent
fg137 1 hour ago | parent
If Meta keeps those positions at all.
cute_boi 1 hour ago | parent
hsuduebc2 48 minutes ago | parent
selectodude 1 hour ago | parent
fg137 15 minutes ago | parent
Frieren 1 hour ago | parent
icantevenhold 1 hour ago | parent
carabiner 1 hour ago | parent
gradascent 1 hour ago | parent
locknitpicker 1 hour ago | parent
If you care about preventing Meta from doing evil things, you have far more influence and power over that if you work for Meta.
mcmcmc 1 hour ago | parent
TheOtherHobbes 1 hour ago | parent
He owns the company and all of its decisions. He is literally accountable to no one, from the board down.
The only viable action here is to do what the Brazilian government are going to do - document the abuses, and fine the company into oblivion and/or ban it if it doesn't behave itself.
If the US ever recovers democracy itself, pass the documentation on to the new US government.
doctorpangloss 1 hour ago | parent
people are not questioning whether or not the goal is good or bad. they're showing that the Concern is really a Concern Troll. that is, their concerns aren't really sincere.
that said i think the appropriate meme for this is the Big Chin guy
hlynurd 1 hour ago | parent
undersuit 1 hour ago | parent
bestouff 1 hour ago | parent
swiftcoder 1 hour ago | parent
A lot of folks left over Cambridge Analytica, another bunch left over Myanmar, more left over Trump, and yet the hits keep on coming...
ForHackernews 1 hour ago | parent
(10) To lower morale and with it, production, be pleasant to inefficient workers; give them undeserved promotions. Discriminate against efficient workers; complain unjustly about their work.
(11) Hold conferences when there is more critical work to be done.
(12) Multiply paper work in plausible ways. Start duplicate files.kokanee 1 hour ago | parent
foobar_______ 28 minutes ago | parent
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matt3210 1 hour ago | parent
jacquesm 1 hour ago | parent
sheepscreek 1 hour ago | parent
So we should rather want these people to stay on for as long as possible, and make it hard for Meta to pull off such shit.
jacquesm 1 hour ago | parent
Meta will not stop short of government action and I wouldn't be surprised at all if this is happening at the request of that government in the first place. Zuckerberg may have some excuse (say, they showed him a documentary about Jack Ma) but he definitely either folded or just straight up decided to comply in advance.
sheepscreek 1 hour ago | parent
The world exists in shades of grey my friend..
HelloMcFly 1 hour ago | parent
You wouldn't be surprised if the incumbent candidate requested that Meta platform and systematically encourage voting for their rightwing opponent? What do you think happened here?
And as for me, I want people with morals to stick around and try to influence things in a positive direction. It's so easy to get on one's high horse and say "then go elsewhere", but everyone acting like that is a short path to a worse world. Tend the gardens you are in while you can, but I don't blame anyone who just can't carry that torch day-in, day-out.
swiftcoder 1 hour ago | parent
So walking away would allow the former-employees to have a clear conscience, in full knowledge that the evil will continue exactly the same without them?
This is a somewhat exotic philosophical position you are staking out here
liendolucas 1 hour ago | parent
mercanlIl 1 hour ago | parent
It's better that people in these organizations feel they can speak up. If they have to choose between saying nothing or resigning, many would simply say nothing. And how is that situation any better?
jacquesm 1 hour ago | parent
loeg 1 hour ago | parent
jacquesm 1 hour ago | parent
p2detar 1 hour ago | parent
> 25.10.2026: Meta removed three prominent satire pages from Facebook the day before presidential elections in Bulgaria.
> Shortly after the deletion they were recreated and gathered tens of thousands of followers within hours. Less than 24h later Meta removed them again. Due to past incidents involvement of security forces is suspected. No meaningful response from Meta as usual.
Source: https://bsky.app/profile/yurukov.yurukov.net/post/3myozobbcy...
empyrrhicist 1 hour ago | parent
dastardly45 1 hour ago | parent
andreygrehov 1 hour ago | parent
syrrim 46 minutes ago | parent
does this mean they were ordered to take them down by the government? what can they do in that case?
basilgohar 1 hour ago | parent
1. Will this increase or decrease the incidents? 2. Will we know more or less about these incidents in the future? 3. Will anyone else inside work for or against this happening?
Which way do we want things to go?
I don't mean to say it's clearly this or that. I think it's a genuinely interesting and challenging dilemma. Do I continue working someplace that is involved in something evil but try and provide a voice, push, influence, or, if nothing else, a voice to the outside of the goings on inside, or do I separate myself and work only from the outside?
We can imagine the same for law enforcement, military, defence contractors, government, and any number of other vectors and industries.
Snowden was working from the inside before he leaked what he did. Every single whistleblower was involved first.
andrewstuart2 1 hour ago | parent
But also, then, I know exactly how I would feel about continuing to work if my purpose is now to just be a roadblock. It must be pretty demoralizing and can you really ask that of someone else or be upset if they aren't up for that? I would certainly be tempted to jump ship for a chance to get paid better doing something I enjoy.
icantevenhold 1 hour ago | parent
I don’t think that’s a helpful way to think about it.
You’re not required to improve things anywhere and you can leave a toxic (work)relationship if that’s what you need.
The problem is not that power corrupts; it’s more that power attracts corruptible people
pseudalopex 20 minutes ago | parent
> It must be pretty demoralizing and can you really ask that of someone else or be upset if they aren't up for that?
Did they add this after your comment?
lukan 1 hour ago | parent
Well ideally we want companies and governments to be trustworthy and that only works with trustworthy individuals, but here in this case I can only see Meta dissolving as a solution.
Remember how it started? Zuckerberg literally said about his users: ‘They “trust me.” Dumb f--ks’.
This is the base the company has been operating since the beginning, just got better at hiding it, but now some masks are slipping again.
exe34 1 hour ago | parent
I wonder if an alternative could be found - for example the state funds an independent news organisation that gets access to everything they are doing by law, and turns up at offices, and asks questions, joins meetings, etc. Refusing to share information counts as criminal and a director gets shipped to prison every week until the situation resolves itself.
cherryteastain 1 hour ago | parent
epgui 1 hour ago | parent
elicash 1 hour ago | parent
This also isn't to fault anyone who instead chooses to leave, instead.
I also think your comments diminishes the actual impact lots of folks have had, such as stopping donation to certain PACs. Relative to many other groups of workers, tech workers actually have more leverage.
jackb4040 51 minutes ago | parent
worik 1 hour ago | parent
Another obvious point is: those computer programmers, and related professions, are now precarious employees.
Times have changed, there are redundant computists all over the place. Telling people they should leave the job that feeds their family because of short sighted management is cruel
locknitpicker 1 hour ago | parent
Yes, that sounds awfully suspicious and counterproductive. It sounds like they actually want to silence any reference to wrongdoing, as if potential whistleblowers and offenders must be held accountable to deeply contrasting morality bars.
To me, asking people who object to their employer's moral, ethical, and/or criminal violations to resign and go away has the same vibes as calling for people who criticism the government to exile: their goal is not to fix things, is to silence dissent.
mcmcmc 1 hour ago | parent
icantevenhold 1 hour ago | parent
Like your life will basically be ruined for a long time, maybe forever.
WhyNotHugo 1 hour ago | parent
Neither leaving in protest nor staying would really change much. As long as someone is willing to do the dirty work, it'll continue to get done.
egeozcan 1 hour ago | parent
knorker 1 hour ago | parent
And yes, working for META means doing your part to overthrow democracy. It's company strategy to do so, and like it or not, working for META means you are "just following orders" in this enterprise.
I couldn't live like that for long.
jacquesm 1 hour ago | parent
Aurornis 1 hour ago | parent
The letter was from a UK communication worker's union and no article I can find includes the number of employees who signed the letter or their roles a Meta.
With how much is being obscured about the signers of the letter and their location, I think it's unlikely they were involved with the incident at all.
They're just signing a letter protesting it.
ryandvm 1 hour ago | parent
I mean, if you really think your organization is a net negative, perhaps your best civic effort is to just sort of linger as organizational dead weight or, better yet, as some sort of bureaucratic tar baby.
weaksauce 51 minutes ago | parent
they could take a page out of the CIA manual for it.
cute_boi 1 hour ago | parent
We Palantir employees want to build software tools for clients to combine, clean, and make sense of their own scattered datasets
ivell 1 hour ago | parent
Frieren 1 hour ago | parent
Also, if you help a dictator-wanna-be to take power you may get a election short-term but a country long-term. Billionaires are not very friendly towards democracy or the working class.
idle_zealot 1 hour ago | parent
1. It's going to be very unpopular, enabling the domestic opposition to take advantage rhetorically. Without a local mandate it's political suicide, so you'd need to build up to it for a while and turn the public against Facebook/Instagram. Tricky if that's their primary mode of engagement with community/news/entertainment.
2. An attack on a powerful private company tends to scare other capital owners. If you depend on donors and local (or international) businesses to maintain your lifestyle or electoral viability then it can be tricky to convince them that your ban is limited in scope and won't prompt additional regulatory action or contribute to a social shift of people expecting more from their leaders. If you fail to provide adequate assurances then capital is likely to side with Meta and sink you for trying to cut them off.
drgo 1 hour ago | parent
drjasonharrison 1 hour ago | parent
xyst 1 hour ago | parent
If you truly despise their actions, start leaking documents to the press. Climb the ladder as high as possible and infiltrate top leadership.
swiftcoder 1 hour ago | parent
I don't think meta has had an all hands meeting that wasn't live-tweeted by journalists since... 2019? The leaks are pretty ubiquitous, but notably not from high-ups or the folks with access to a lot of the public policy stuff.
cheriot 1 hour ago | parent
idle_zealot 1 hour ago | parent
Aurornis 1 hour ago | parent
I found that Lula's team was unable to pay to boost posts for about 24 hours, which was a bug that affected other accounts too.
Meta also changed the search algorithm to trigger account matching after 5 characters, which would make "@lulaofficial" not the top recommendation for everyone who only typed "lula".
The rumors about what happened are crazy. These things would be so easy to report in any of the news articles, but instead everyone is just guessing and sharing rumors.
dastardly45 1 hour ago | parent
drdexebtjl 15 minutes ago | parent
- Meta AI refused to generate campaign images depicting Lula, but not Bolsonaro.
- If you asked for Meta AI to generate fictitious campaign images for fake candidates, they would have Bolsonaro’s party number. It would refuse to generate images with Lula’s party number claiming it can’t use real party numbers (Brazilians vote by typing the candidate’s number in an electronic voting machine)
- AI-powered translation was refusing to translate “presidiário” correctly when referring to Jair.
lenerdenator 1 hour ago | parent
loeg 1 hour ago | parent
That's not true. Zuckerberg blinked when the share price hit the 90s in 2022. Despite holding the vote, he started listening to external investors more.
lenerdenator 14 minutes ago | parent
Aurornis 1 hour ago | parent
The best I could find was from some translations of paywalled Brazilian articles like this one https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/poder/2026/10/em-mensagens-int...
The "account restriction" was a period of about 24 hours where Instagram's "Boost Post" feature wasn't working for some accounts, including Lula's. The ads were still shown, but the part to add more money for the boosts wasn't working that day.
There's another complaint about not being able to search for "Lula" and get the exact account after they changed the global search to require 5 characters to identify accounts.
There are additional accusations of things like some stories posts getting cut short and the AI tool not applying political restrictions equally.
A lot of the articles imply the "internal communications" caught them red-handed doing these things intentionally, but as far as I can tell those internal communications are just them responding to the issues? If there was a leaked internal communication about them disrupting elections, the news stories would probably lead with that instead of dancing around the subject.
That's the context I could find after not getting much useful information from this link. I know this comment is going to make some people angry but to clear I'm only trying to figure out what these articles are talking about.
loeg 1 hour ago | parent
And it works! Nearly every comment here is just riffing on how this was definitely intentional and further evidence of the commenter's preconceived notions of Meta, etc, etc.
LeBit 1 hour ago | parent
There’s a lot of yous…
dastardly45 53 minutes ago | parent
But please, just go ahead and trust the company that was fined $25 billion dollars last week for lying and misleading the public about its involvement in the Cambridge Analytica scandal.
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2026/10/meta-must-pr...
Aurornis 48 minutes ago | parent
> Incidents include temporary interruptions of one candidate’s campaign account; differences in audience engagement, user feeds, view counts and reach; restrictions on that campaign’s Instagram posts; and differences between the main political parties in AI image generation, WhatsApp channel search results, candidates’ Stories and the distribution of political content potentially benefiting the opposing candidate’s campaign.
> But please, just go ahead and trust the company
There are more options than "Completely trust the company" and "Completely trust any allegations against the company". Take some time and learn the details. Don't just pick sides and bury your head in the sand when someone wants to discuss facts.
loeg 1 hour ago | parent
cosmicgadget 1 hour ago | parent
dastardly45 1 hour ago | parent
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2026/10/meta-must-pr...
johen8 1 hour ago | parent
worik 1 hour ago | parent
Trust does matter. Hard to win, easier to loose, and no matter how big you are, how mean you seem, you can still sicken and die
seydor 1 hour ago | parent
Probably Zuckerberg's gravestone
benoau 1 hour ago | parent
And the fact that he did this years after Cambridge Analytica, just wow.
I wonder if it can even be stopped at this stage - Brazil can only arrest him or execs if they are in Brazil, even international warrants are tricky to enforce against people who can travel by private jet and mega-yacht.
shrubby 1 hour ago | parent
ludsan 1 hour ago | parent
I'm slow because this article doesn't describe it: and believe it or not, I use this website as a source of "breaking" news, so I sincerely would like to know.
EDIT: ahh p2detar has something real: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50248577
dastardly45 58 minutes ago | parent
ludsan 36 minutes ago | parent
I feel like I'm taking Crazy Pills. That was the most bizarre AJ (AP?) article I've read.
none_to_remain 1 hour ago | parent
rl3 52 minutes ago | parent
This was trending #1, and now it's not even main page at #37.
henriquenunez 33 minutes ago | parent