31 points gmays 3 hours ago 11 comments
liuliu 1 hour ago | parent
I haven't evaluated this one, but for what I have, it seem the pplx-decider-v1.2 (and its -flash variant) are pretty good. Anyone evaluated all these open-source decision models on their own tasks? (I evaluated on MonitoringBench).
GavinEke 1 hour ago | parent
I didn't look specifically at open-source but I evaluated as many decision models as I could on openrouter against how good are they at detecting phishing, which isn't the best use of these models but I was interested to see how they compared. https://emdashcyber.com/phishnchips-decision-models/
theanonymousone 43 minutes ago | parent
I had my first use case recently, and did some very non-systematic benchmarking of models on OpenRouter.
The only one that came close to Jev itself was the one from respan (respan/span-02), which is also open source and cheaper too.
mstkllah 1 hour ago | parent
Reads like an ad for Microsoft and its model because it's an article about a decision model that doesn't mention Jev or other decision models at all.
Den_VR 1 hour ago | parent
No pelicans riding bicycles on this one, eh?
v3ss0n 1 hour ago | parent
Yeah the most usesless and stupidest bench .. I don't know why LLM Community thinks its good idea to use that..
It can't work on decision systems.
eblume 1 hour ago | parent
It's a meme. Simon Willison started doing it because, I'm paraphrasing, it's something that (at the time) was just sort of at the edge of what you could expect an LLM to be able to do, and also it's somewhat of an impossible task since, of course, Pellicans can't ride bicycles. From there, he started writing about it along with every major LLM release he covered. His coverage is generally well regarded (hi, Simon!) and so it sticks around. It's never been intended as a serious benchmark.
adamsmark 18 minutes ago | parent
The 3D visualizations have always made it starkly apparent the difference in quality between quantizations and thinking.
The pelican meme is so much better than benchmaxxed stuff. Unfortunately we are likely now in pelicanmaxxing territory.
bushbaba 53 minutes ago | parent
Instead the right app is hotdog / not hotdog