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Sigma Says the Compact, Modular FP2 Is the Ultimate Hybrid Camera

27 points thm 3 days ago 18 comments

smlacy 1 hour ago | parent

Cool looking camera, but OMG this website is HORRID. Brings my entire computer to a crawl, barely can scroll the article at all.

bensyverson 1 hour ago | parent

Are you browsing the web without an ad blocker?

smlacy 51 minutes ago | parent

You mean on a corporate managed device? Why yes, yes I am.

aftbit 34 minutes ago | parent

Seems like your corp is mismanaging your device. Ad-blockers are one of the most important security improvements you can make to a modern web browser.

mvid 1 hour ago | parent

Odd to have a modern camera released without photo signing

doctorpangloss 1 hour ago | parent

there's no threat model for this (mass-media image authenticity verification) that attestation solves. i mean, i know people will say that there is, but they're all wrong haha.

armadsen 1 hour ago | parent

Yeah, there are plenty of modern cameras that don't have it, but it would still be nice for Sigma to join the other camera manufacturers that are supporting C2PA.

fooqux 33 minutes ago | parent

Hell it doesn't even have IBIS. I suppose they have to cut corners somewhere for the size constraint.

aftbit 37 minutes ago | parent

I would imagine you'd need at least FP16, if not a full FP32, to get the ultimate camera.

MattCruikshank 33 minutes ago | parent

I'm surprised there aren't Android Cameras? At a reasonable-ish price?

Like a Pixel 6a is $249 new right now.

So, where's that same caliber of hardware, but as a camera-first?

xnx 11 minutes ago | parent

Same. Mobile phones have excellent image processing, displays, and interfaces, but small optics and sensors. Dedicated cameras have big optics and sensors, but bad/limited image processing, displays, and interfaces.

Aurornis 4 minutes ago | parent

Handheld cameras aren’t meant to be interacted with a lot. The interface is supposed to get out of the way and get photos to the SD card as fast and predictably as possible.

Sony camera firmware is Android based, but without the Android UI.

Some of the camera makers have added apps and app stores and they haven’t been popular.

Most users don’t want their dedicated camera to be a full Android phone. The specs of the CPU don’t matter as long as it shoots fast enough and does what you need when you press the button.

freetime2 13 minutes ago | parent

I looked into buying a compact full-frame camera a couple years ago (the Sony a7c2), and came to the conclusion that the size and weight of lenses matters more than the camera body. So personally I don’t really see the point of making a camera body this small if you have to sacrifice on things like IBIS, an EVF, physical controls, and heat dissipation/recording limits.

Are there any particular use cases where a camera this small really offers a significant benefit? Perhaps street photography when paired with certain compact lenses?

dylan604 8 minutes ago | parent

There's a saying "buy the glass, rent the camera" as camera bodies change much more frequently than lenses. There's more camera mounts now than when I first heard the saying though.

Aurornis 9 minutes ago | parent

I like this concept of a minimal core camera which has a huge sensor, the logic board, a battery compartment, and then mounting points for accessories to customize it to the use case.

Lack of in body image stabilization is difficult, though. It makes sense for a minimum size camera but IBIS is amazing when it’s working well.