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InsidiousWombat 16 hours ago | parent
Also frankly the effort is kinda wasted, "breaching" on other bands was never hard and with availability of cheap SDRs, easier than ever.
techjamie 16 hours ago | parent
So they started selling them restricted to ham bands until the user pressed a key combo to factory reset them, which put them back to iirc 136-172.
driverdan 16 hours ago | parent
subscribed 16 hours ago | parent
> new policy will not apply to gear that operates exclusively on amateur radio frequencies
So almost everything is getting banned, at least the existing hardware.
scrumper 16 hours ago | parent
I believe the FCC ban doesn't apply to used gear but seems like eBay is taking a harder stance.
subscribed 13 hours ago | parent
Thanks!
(English is not my first language)
tfwnopmt 16 hours ago | parent
nubinetwork 16 hours ago | parent
sc68cal 16 hours ago | parent
antonymoose 16 hours ago | parent
Are modern varieties truly locked or just “locked ;)” ?
Manuel_D 16 hours ago | parent
Regardless, the Quansheng UV-K5 is largely supplanting the Baofeng as the go-to entry level HT, the 3rd party firmware for that radio is pretty impressive.
seany 14 hours ago | parent
devin 15 hours ago | parent
ThinkingGuy 15 hours ago | parent
mindcrime 15 hours ago | parent
1. Decrypting those communications if they are encrypted
and
2. Selling equipment designed to receive on those bands.
Of course there's not much purpose in sitting around listening to the digital chirping noises of encrypted traffic, but as I understand it, if that's your hobby, that part is actually legal.
(Also a licensed US ham, not not an expert in anything in particular and definitely not a lawyer)
skinfaxi 15 hours ago | parent
kmeisthax 14 hours ago | parent
[0] Wikipedia also mentions the existence of cloning tools that would let you copy any AMPS subscriber ID and program another phone with the same number, stealing the subscriber's account. I suspect AT&T was more angry about that.
soulofmischief 8 hours ago | parent
mindcrime 7 hours ago | parent
(d) Cellular telecommunications receivers (1) Within 180 days after October 28, 1992, the Commission shall prescribe and make effective regulations denying equipment authorization (under part 15 of title 47, Code of Federal Regulations, or any other part of that title) for any scanning receiver that is capable of— (A) receiving transmissions in the frequencies allocated to the domestic cellular radio telecommunications service, (B) readily being altered by the user to receive transmissions in such frequencies, or (C) being equipped with decoders that convert digital cellular transmissions to analog voice audio. (2) Beginning 1 year after the effective date of the regulations adopted pursuant to paragraph (1), no receiver having the capabilities described in subparagraph (A), (B), or (C) of paragraph (1), as such capabilities are defined in such regulations, shall be manufactured in the United States or imported for use in the United States.
That said, the law is complicated and there could be some other pertinent statute that I'm not aware of.
EDIT: OK, this gets even weirder. I haven't followed every line of this through in detail, so take this with the amount of salt you consider appropriate. But according to ChatGPT, the FCC, in this order:
https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/FCC-25-85A1.pdf?utm_...
effectively repealed this restriction. What makes it weird is that the statute itself is apparently still on the books, but the FCC seems to have exercised their rule-making authority to say "this no longer applies". Here's what appears to be the relevant sections:
We have identified 36 rule provisions, totaling 12,008 words and covering more than 25 pages in the Code of Federal Regulations, that no longer serve the public interest because they regulate obsolete technology,4 are no longer used in practice by the FCC, industry, or the public,5 or are otherwise outdated or unnecessary.6 Applying the “good cause” standard discussed above, we conclude that prior notice and comment are unnecessary before repealing the rules identified in the Appendix.
and contained within one of those footnotes:
15.121 (contains provisions to protect consumers’ privacy from technology that is now obsolete);
[1]: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/USCODE-2004-title47/pdf/...
ianburrell 15 hours ago | parent
Unlocking handhelds is less of a problem because it requires deliberate action to break the rules. There are fewer people willing and able to do that.
bethekidyouwant 10 hours ago | parent
slop 16 hours ago | parent
https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/amazon-uk-now-requires-p...
iamnothere 16 hours ago | parent
Edit: as another commenter pointed out devices with an FCC ID will be fine (for now) which I assume covers these. And you can always DIY a frequency converter: https://hackaday.com/2026/10/15/so-you-want-to-make-your-sdr...
zitterbewegung 16 hours ago | parent
twiclo 15 hours ago | parent
kevin42 15 hours ago | parent
IIRC, Meshtastic has an is_licensed / “Ham Mode” setting that changes the software's regulatory assumptions and power limits so it can be used.
zitterbewegung 12 hours ago | parent
hawaiijoe 16 hours ago | parent
RobotToaster 16 hours ago | parent
usefulcat 16 hours ago | parent
wewewedxfgdf 15 hours ago | parent
grendelt 12 hours ago | parent
The sites are not at all "cutting edge" or even aesthetically pleasing. Like most of ham radio, it's functional and that's about it. Aesthetics are almost non-existent in the hobby.
eBay serves (served?) a wide, public audience. Hams don't need that wide of an audience, just a targeted audience. I'd venture to guess QRZ.com probably has the most buy/sell traffic, then older, has-been sites like eham.net and swap.qth.com catering to the old timers that don't want to follow the traffic trends that left for other sites.
The thing with ham radio is the population is quite small to begin with. The sheer number of hams is like 1% of any population no matter how you slice it. Country, state, city... and that's just those that are licensed. How many of THOSE are interested in buying gear online or shipping gear when selling online? Not really even the majority of the small community. THEN you further cut that down because hams are a stodgy crowd that resist change. So anything new often has a long run up for adoption. Even longer to become a known entity in the community.
Surely something else could replace QRZ.com eventually, but no time soon that I can imagine.
behringer 16 hours ago | parent
mixologic 16 hours ago | parent
ErroneousBosh 15 hours ago | parent
It seems to work okay over here in the UK.
BenjiWiebe 13 hours ago | parent
ErroneousBosh 13 hours ago | parent
*Maaaaybe* if you start keying up and talking over VHF channel 16, you'd get someone from Ofcom out.
Someone buying a couple of cheap Baofengs and accidentally stepping all over the local shopping centre's security guard radios? Not a chance.
behringer 11 hours ago | parent
krunck 16 hours ago | parent
superkuh 16 hours ago | parent
eBay simply does not have employees with the domain/technical knowledge to decide which things actually require an FCC ID to be displayed. As such they'll just ban anything and everything re: RF, like the example above.
The FCC document from page 97 on has these tables full of extremely inaccurate ass-covering data pretending that >80% of all electronics sellers that might be effected by these new FCC rules are large firms (>1000 people) and that's simply not true. If they counted ebay sellers there'd be more human sellers than firms by far.
Uncle_Brumpus 16 hours ago | parent
BenjiWiebe 13 hours ago | parent
someguydave 12 hours ago | parent
superkuh 10 hours ago | parent
The end result will be a ban in practice even if the meaning and spirit of the FCC regs would not. Because now eBay is the judge.
0x1ch 16 hours ago | parent
charcircuit 15 hours ago | parent
Gormo 13 hours ago | parent
someguydave 13 hours ago | parent
charcircuit 12 hours ago | parent
yieldcrv 9 hours ago | parent
https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-adopts-rules-strengthen-rul...
If you believe the FCC or Congress misapplied the interstate commerce authority in the constitution or prior case law, then you can take this up in Federal Court after you synthesize standing by trying to list a radio for sell on ebay
this SCOTUS has expressed interest in reverting the interstate commerce authority to its pre-New Deal interpretations, which would disintegrate the administrative state of the last 100 years, so they’re just waiting for a case, if you’d like to see what small government looks like again
socializer 15 hours ago | parent
I don't think it's useful to point out inconsistencies; the bottom line is that lasers will be on the chopping block within our lifetime too.
ErroneousBosh 15 hours ago | parent
Yer cheapy Chinese radios though? Baofengs are currently about £19 each on eBay, with a discount for quantity.
BenjiWiebe 14 hours ago | parent
We buy lots of stuff for our dairy/cheese plant business from eBay.
When I worked in a mechanic shop there were always parts on the way from eBay too.
ErroneousBosh 13 hours ago | parent
It's easier just to speak to someone, bank transfer some money over, and they'll stick it in the post.
TedDoesntTalk 12 hours ago | parent
https://www.ebay.com/itm/287616828521
$30.00
ErroneousBosh 3 hours ago | parent
You can, however, buy cheap Chinese HTs (Baofengs are less than 20 quid these days) which are illegal in the US, test equipment that's illegal in the US, and even Tonka beans which are illegal in the US (although honestly if you're buying a poisonous bean to add flavour to a dish you're better buying it from a reputable supplier - a bit like yer gun parts).
Interesting thing about gun laws in the UK vs the US too - apparently if you buy something like a tank with a really massive gun, in the UK "deactivating" it is really just a case of cutting one part off the mechanism. But if you try to ship that to the UK, you've got to basically gas axe off the entire breech and plate up both ends of the barrel, or fill it with concrete or something similar. A "deactivated" weapon in the UK is nowhere near deactivated enough for the US.
Over here, you can actually have a tank with a fully-functioning gun in private ownership. It's expensive to get the right paperwork for it, but it can be done.
lstodd 13 hours ago | parent
Now, what is the point of those bans? So people feel safer while not being safer?
socializer 12 hours ago | parent
1. People who decide to go on murder sprees are usually not high-functioning individuals, so even modest barriers can improve outcomes.
2. Fewer weapons in homes means fewer heat-of-the-moment acts involving these weapons. For example, there are very few firearm suicides in the EU, compared to the US.
tourmalinetaco 3 hours ago | parent
As such, we see little raw change in human behavior. Firearms do not increase suicidal ideation nor intention, they merely provide a more fatal means to do so (although, given the health complications of a failed hanging I question whether the ethics of this outcome are truly superior). So I really don’t consider the argument that restricting a population from firearms is good just due to that, when the method of suicide is independent of the reasons for suicide.
As for #1, cars are still widely accessible, and those who go on murder sprees would have far worse chances if more people carried weapons for self-defense.
As parent stated, these bans do not meaningfully change human nature, they simply give an air of safety. In fact, I would further say they create bad habits within society that criminals can and do exploit. Do you have a meaningful way to protect yourself if you were attacked? You should, your safety is a God-given right that only you can properly defend in the heat of the moment. Does your place of residence not allow for self-defense? Then that is a flaw in governance that must be addressed.
ErroneousBosh 2 hours ago | parent
I'm sure that's what the average 13-year-old wannabe gangster is absolutely going to do, spend 50 quid on a budget angle grinder and traipse around scrapyards for a lorry spring.
Yeah, that makes total sense.
Is there any *legitimate* reason why a child needs to be able to buy chef's knives?
defrost 2 hours ago | parent
UK (and Canadian, Australian, etc) weapon disposal schemes frequently land home made weapons eg: https://kk.org/streetuse/english-ownerbuilt-weapons/ from 2006 is barely a trickle of the flood that gets swept up by amnesty programs.
defrost 2 hours ago | parent
Like seatbelts they're not foolproof in making people safer, but they do act as a damper on knife crime.
mmmlinux 15 hours ago | parent
Spivak 15 hours ago | parent
https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-adopts-rules-strengthen-rul...
> Protecting Against National Security Threats to the Communications Supply Chain…
Yeah… a foreign adversary is totally going to be thwarted by FCC certification. The Russian's are probably just kicking themselves for buying at Walmart.
MBCook 15 hours ago | parent
If they’re pushing eBay not to allow the sale of devices which allow transmitting on illegal bands, is that really puppeting?
Or is that just saying “stop helping people do illegal shit or we’re going to have to start investigating you”?
FabCH 15 hours ago | parent
And also for some reason explicitly lists „military aircraft and ships“. Which surely should be allowed just for the comedic value.
eddythompson80 15 hours ago | parent
There is obvious large overlap. Both are nerdy and techy and attract similar base groups. But the ham space is dominated by people who want to be "good citizens" through collective action, while computer hacker is more about cyberpunk "if I could do it, then it's allowed".
Perhaps it's the clearest example of "The medium is the message" concept.
kstrauser 15 hours ago | parent
jameshart 15 hours ago | parent
eddythompson80 14 hours ago | parent
kstrauser 14 hours ago | parent
It would be hard for me to physically interfere with an airport without having armed guards descend upon me. It would not be hard for me to build a radio that could strongly interfere with airplanes on final approach. The FCC rules that make it illegal and also bring the wrath of the feds down upon you are the sorts of regulations I actually support, along with air and water pollution controls, weight limits on trucks using taxpayer-owned highways, banning of mining in public parks, and other things that keep our shared spaces safe and usable.
sans_souse 15 hours ago | parent
privacyishuman 14 hours ago | parent
2600.com took a whhile to load and gbppr does not have a valid certificate or whatever.
2600.com uses a payment processor that requires emails for crypto donations.
RobotToaster 15 hours ago | parent
xattt 15 hours ago | parent
walrus01 14 hours ago | parent
Citation, please?
I'd really like to see a documented example of some HAM entering somebody else's premises on, what, a self-appointed search warrant to hunt down a transmitter they deem illegitimate? In the USA that seems like a good way to get shot by a homeowner.
TedDoesntTalk 12 hours ago | parent
nomel 5 hours ago | parent
walrus01 5 hours ago | parent
alibarber 1 hour ago | parent
'[the] actual telecommunications agencies [under defined circumstances have] .. legislative authority to enter premises and what have you to resolve issues'
No, OFCOM in the UK or Traficom in Finland (the two I'm familiar with) don't have armed units going door to door but if circumstances & the law deem it so then they can show up with the police and the necessary warrants/orders and do so.
cadr 14 hours ago | parent
kstrauser 13 hours ago | parent
> HAMs are typically empowered [in their rule-following] by actual telecommunications agencies [who have] legislative authority to enter premises and what have you to resolve issues
That is, hams (not "HAMs") feel empowered to advise others to obey the law, because they have to work with government agencies who can make life unpleasant for those who don't. It's not "hams [have] legislative authority".
Maybe I'm wrong, but that's how I read it.
xattt 10 hours ago | parent
This was something that was highlighted during my amateur radio course almost 20 years ago.
(1) https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/r-2/page-3.html#doc...
kstrauser 9 hours ago | parent
RobotToaster 3 hours ago | parent
ButlerianJihad 1 hour ago | parent
> telecommunications agencies with legislative authority to enter premises
This is real garbled. I don't know what "legislative authority" even is. The entering of premises involves an "enforcement authority", really.
Perhaps you meant that legislators have granted them the authority to do enforcement activities. That isn't "legislative authority".
Xirdus 15 hours ago | parent
aleph_minus_one 13 hours ago | parent
Hackers were much more rebellious in former days before such laws were past. My opinion the reason why hackers got more "civilized" is that you could earn quite a lot of money by getting (and staying in) a job in big tech.
Xirdus 13 hours ago | parent
mcmcmc 13 hours ago | parent
Xirdus 7 hours ago | parent
pixl97 12 hours ago | parent
For example if you started broadcasting high powered signals it wouldn't be surprising if you got checked into for being a communist/soviet.
Xirdus 8 hours ago | parent
gopher_space 9 hours ago | parent
The chain of resource acquisition and information gathering necessary to arrive at a point where you need to make a long-distance phone call you could never afford was impressive in itself. Calling card fraud by a bright minor for educational purposes against a corporate entity absolutely loathed by every adult at the time just wasn't that big of a deal.
From my perspective the point of being a hacker is individual but follows observable desire paths. A lot of those have been filled in now.
alnwlsn 15 hours ago | parent
Take this Hackaday article from the other day:
https://hackaday.com/2026/10/15/so-you-want-to-make-your-sdr...
The subject is mostly academic, but in 18 comments no less than 3 different people are warning about doing something against the rules. It's weird. I don't know of any other subject that provokes responses about "the rules" like this. I could understand if the article title was "How to Aim Laser Pointers at Airplanes", but attach a long enough wire to an oscillator and people start to get uppity.
On the other side of things, I don't know if you've turned on a shortwave radio recently, but the only thing I hear on mine is switch-mode power supply noise.
iamnothere 15 hours ago | parent
eddythompson80 15 hours ago | parent
One bad transmitter in your neighborhood can cut you off from the hobby. Someone who's into linux and computers can follow an online tutorial to rig together an SDR. Look at a bunch of numbers or static, shrug and move on to a different project without disconnecting that anttena breaking an entire band for all of his neighbors. Then it's on those neighbors to go build a directional antenna and buy portable radio gear and then do their own "in the field investigation" to isolate which house is doing that, then go try to explain to the random person they are polluting a band and hope the person is friendly and cooperative.
In a perfect world the FCC would do that, but getting the FCC to act on small infractions like that is a slow and long process and often goes unanswered. Especially if you're not near a marina or a federal building or an airport. So one hackaday reader can take down ham operation in an entire area because they were just interested in a weekend DIY project.
People throw that "against the law" to limit the damage. But actually getting the FCC to prosecute these issues is a challenge in itself.
walrus01 14 hours ago | parent
The FCC's enforcement bureau is not very large or well resourced and is primarily concerned with issuing enforcement actions on licensed broadcasters. You can look at their public documents/listings of "Notes of Appparent Liability" for examples. Everyone who gets fined by the FCC is public recod.
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=FCC+enfor...
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=FCC+NAL+n...
eddythompson80 12 hours ago | parent
The FCC used to be a lot more active in the 40s and 50s. Especially when there was a general hysteria and fear of soviet spies. The FCC still has various monitoring station everywhere, but they only use them for huge operations rather than policing hobby bands.
jakzurr 6 hours ago | parent
Edit: ok, a reddit user said that was the reason.
CalRobert 4 hours ago | parent
markdown 1 hour ago | parent
jhallenworld 13 hours ago | parent
mschuster91 2 hours ago | parent
charcircuit 9 hours ago | parent
Why can't those neighbors just broadcast on top of it? I'm sure an LLM could figure out a protocol that could survive.
soulofmischief 9 hours ago | parent
And you cannot simply switch bands, because amateur bands are very specific.
You're left with attempting some form of recoverable signal modulation which can propagate through the problem area, but it becomes akin to making ripples in a turbulent river. The ripples simply do not contain the energy to resist diffusion of the surrounding heat in the environment for any considerable length of time. We definitely have techniques for propagating multiple signals across the same frequency band, it's fundamental to modern communication, but it still comes with physical limitations.
shingoshoji 8 hours ago | parent
Why are you rationalizing / defending categorically anti-social behavior?
wahern 6 hours ago | parent
For the younger readers: this used to be a not uncommon thing in the POTS era, "lines crossed". And it was indeed annoying, especially if it persisted after hanging up and calling again.
charcircuit 4 hours ago | parent
Why would there be? Do you get random voices on a VoIP call done over wifi (radio) or there is interference? It sounds like your protocol needs more work.
Melatonic 2 hours ago | parent
Plus keep in mind you're just broadcasting everywhere. It's like a giant lightbulb on top of your house that's super bright in all directions.
WiFi interference also totally is a thing in apartment buildings and overcrowding of the spectrum really can make your latency and throughout lower
eddythompson80 6 hours ago | parent
abenga 5 hours ago | parent
RobotToaster 3 hours ago | parent
Why would someone leave an SDR actively transmitting with no purpose?
noAnswer 2 hours ago | parent
bityard 13 hours ago | parent
Also, I love hackaday for their articles but the comment section there is among the worst on the Internet. You'll find more enlightening discussions on the wall of a truckstop bathroom stall.
indrora 7 hours ago | parent
Some would argue it's right up there with HN ;)
mesh 13 hours ago | parent
InsidiousWombat 13 hours ago | parent
pixl97 12 hours ago | parent
The spectrum is fragile. A few people being assholes can mess it up for thousands or millions of people with a few hundred bucks of equipment.
While you or me may not cause a mess, there are millions and millions of people around and eventually you hit the random number generator where people fuck things up.
quietsegfault 12 hours ago | parent
Also, when you break little rules early (like low power transmission out of band) it makes you desensitized to breaking dangerous rules later (like keeping people away from antennas being driven with high power).
pdntspa 8 hours ago | parent
sasaf5 5 hours ago | parent
hypfer 2 hours ago | parent
I mean everything kinda is, but with RF it is very evident.
Maybe the world would be better off if we realized that most commons are like that and should be treated with more common sense
mschuster91 2 hours ago | parent
Unfortunately, it is at the same time very easy to make innocent mistakes that lead to such kinds of emissions. Say, forget (or mess up) the input filter of a PA, and at the same time mess up the output filter... and whoops, now you're blasting harmonics all over the place.
Manuel_D 15 hours ago | parent
jhallenworld 13 hours ago | parent
quietsegfault 12 hours ago | parent
pixl97 12 hours ago | parent
Most people want their phone to work and other assorted things that use wireless signals. If amateur radio people piss off the general public these things will be stripped away rather quickly.
There is absolutely zero freedom of speech on using radio signals.
wpm 9 hours ago | parent
By the early 1900s, governments, militaries, and large business were using it for serious purposes. You can't have randos transmitting fake orders to a Naval base or fake distress calls to the Coast Guard. Imagine if some asshole in New York was screwing around on the airwaves in his shed and the land based telegraph stations couldn't hear the chatter from the Titanic and the relay stations sending the messages on. It was always going to end up regulated.
Manuel_D 4 hours ago | parent
And at the end of the day people still buy baofengs and operate them at 5 watts on FRS and GMRS channels unlicensed all the time, I'm not set of any enforcement.
Melatonic 2 hours ago | parent
mistrial9 13 hours ago | parent
paxy 15 hours ago | parent
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walrus01 14 hours ago | parent
I work professionally in point to point licensed microwave radio and there is very little overlap in our community of ISP/telco/network engineering people with analog ham radio enthusiasts. I don't know a single person who submits FCC coordinations and does high capacity PTP microwave who is also a "licensed" ham.
There is a bit of a disdain in serious radio work for things that operate in purely analog methods (we really only care about things that have native gigabit ethernet or better interfaces on them and can carry IP data), and the concept of not being able to use basic crypto either at the radio level or as a data payload is also anathema to professional use.
There are slightly more professional nerds doing things with meshtastic/meshcore and similar as a hobby, because messing about with small esp32 based things and similar (and specifically in the 900 MHz USA/Canada bands) in purely digital modes is closer to what we do for work. And has practical uses for low data rate SCADA/monitoring and text messaging uses.
There is also a perception that many ham radio enthusiasts who try to position themselves as some special and ultimate resource in disaster response scenarios are not really doing much useful. At a small local scale, maybe? But the people who operate county sized professional emergency communication radio networks (with real budgets from government money) serving sheriff/police/fire/ambulance response and similar also do not overlap a lot with ham radio enthusiasts. If you have the budget to build a $400,000 project of a hilltop radio tower site serving mission critical communications in your county and your main interactions are with the local sheriff's office and the local 911 PSAP, your perspective is going to be very different than the people who want to do all-analog in the clear ham radio for "disaster response".
In many modern emergency scenarios people expect to be able to communicate and share data using whatever they have on their phone or laptop as a wifi client, which means implementing portable two way satellite IP data over something like traditional VSAT, starlink, o3b, Oneweb, soon Amazon LEO, etc. It's also standard for serious disaster response vehicles operated by well funded government agencies to have something like a docked handheld Iridium phone.
RobotToaster 2 hours ago | parent
Melatonic 1 hour ago | parent
walrus01 50 minutes ago | parent
agiacalone 14 hours ago | parent
suprjami 12 hours ago | parent
If you do something naughty on the internet, there's a reasonable chance you won't get caught.
If you do something naughty on the radio, you will get a large fine if not prison time.
nomel 5 hours ago | parent
gorgoiler 12 hours ago | parent
The golden, underlying rule of Amateur Radio is to respect and protect the bands with which we have been trusted.
zer00eyz 12 hours ago | parent
This is in my back yard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZjInmHsWdM
The thing is hams shenanigans tend to impact other hams and not the general public. Every dive bar, and friend group has one asshole, but typically not two.
II2II 11 hours ago | parent
Even the scope of the terms differ. Hackers have to make or break something. Hams may do anything from rag chew to build orbital satellites. If you're more inclined to do legal stuff and aren't inclined to build something, things involving community service are going to be more appealing.
imoverclocked 10 hours ago | parent
When I first came into the tech space, I found myself with quad copters buzzing around my workspace. I had the intention of hacking the signals around me to dissuade folks from flying around my head while sitting at my desk. After walking into a radio shop, looking for a few key items, I chatted for a few minutes with the clerk. He immediately put me into his “you’re a jammer” box and was uninterested in any further conversation. He wasn’t wrong, but it’s ironic given that I was effectively counter-jamming to get work done… and maybe have a little fun hacking at the same time. Point being: some communities have such rigid rules around what a “good citizen” encompasses that they get lost in their own world.
I find myself more on the altruistic side, despite being far closer to a “computer hacker” than a ham.
esseph 9 hours ago | parent
Had you done that, you likely would have shut down most wifi in the nearby vacinity, including office networks, credit card machines, wifi cameras, implanted bluetooth heart monitors, baby monitors, and many other devices.
It could have been an Actual Problem.
imoverclocked 2 hours ago | parent
AFAICT, my larger point still stands.
nomel 5 hours ago | parent
K0balt 3 hours ago | parent
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K0balt 3 hours ago | parent
maccam912 8 hours ago | parent
chorizo 8 hours ago | parent
Barrin92 5 hours ago | parent
This was always a media caricature. If you go back to some of the cultural cornerstones especially when you're talking about technical work it's not that different, see Eric S. Raymond's What is a Hacker? http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
"If you want to be a cracker, go read the alt.2600 newsgroup and get ready to do five to ten in the slammer after finding out you aren't as smart as you think you are"
I blame Mitnick or random script kiddies for this image, when in fact your average hacker is a guy named Bob with an .edu address submitting kernel patches and emacs fixes
weinzierl 3 hours ago | parent
When it comes to hacker culture it has to face different problems. I think a lot of its bad ral comes from psychological reactance and that people just hate unsolicited advice, even if it's excellent and free.
fc417fc802 1 hour ago | parent
grendelt 15 hours ago | parent
When I first saw this shared on the ham radio email reflectors, I went to eBay to have a look. I was actually enticed to buy a radio I hadn't seen or considered prior. That posting is only visible now that the noise floor has dropped dramatically.
prometheus1992 15 hours ago | parent
MBCook 15 hours ago | parent
zardo 15 hours ago | parent
someguydave 12 hours ago | parent
pixl97 12 hours ago | parent
briHass 11 hours ago | parent
Firearms are capable of being used for legal purposes, as they are in the overwhelming number of cases. A radio that transmits on a restricted frequency is illegal. The ruling doesn't say legal frequency transmitters can't be sold, just that the broker (ebay) is responsible for ensuring it's not facilitating the sale of illegal radio equipment. Ebay is the one choosing not to sell most radio equipment (even if legal), because they don't want to deal with it.
Firearms used to be widely available at big-box stores, as they were legal (and still are), provided the store prevented illegal purchases. Most box stores/locations no longer sell firearms, because they don't want to deal with it.
numpad0 1 hour ago | parent
mindslight 15 hours ago | parent
Definitely - LoRA/Meshtastic, SDR transmitters, cheap prepper radios that technically require a license to use, maybe even just cheap antennas that you could make yourself but would rather not have to?
Maybe - ESP32, nRF and other competitively-priced wifi/2.4Ghz microcontrollers/devboards if the China Bad marketing chant really ramps up here? Especially with the recent AI-facilitated reverse engineering to gain SDR-ish functionality. Might have to worry about receive-only SDRs too, since it's not like these people really know the difference.
That's what I can think of off the top of my head, but I've never been heavily into RF. Anything else?
zackmorris 15 hours ago | parent
It sounds like someone is worried about people buying personal radios for Meshtastic or LoRa to use in case cell phone service doesn't work at protests, or there is unrest if the election results are called into question by the current political establishment that doesn't want to cede power. So they got eBay to roll over and more companies could follow.
Ordinarily I wouldn't take a conspiracy theory like this seriously. But in these times, corruption is so rampant that the most convoluted answer tends to be the right one.
Whatarethese 15 hours ago | parent
mindcrime 15 hours ago | parent
1. Since people are still going to find a way to buy items the FCC doesn't want them to have, what's that new outlet going to be? I saw somebody mention TikTok. OK... what else? Facebook groups? Craigslist? Private old-skool phpbb forums? Usenet? Mastodon? AliExpress? Something that hasn't been invented yet?
MobiusHorizons 10 hours ago | parent
itomato 14 hours ago | parent
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jimnotgym 14 hours ago | parent
MassPikeMike 12 hours ago | parent
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shevy-java 2 hours ago | parent
You'd think that the USA would be worshipping capitalism, but capitalism also has as one intrinsic aspect free competition, in order to drive down prices. This is VERY clearly broken here, by ALL these corporations. Why do politicians ignore this? I am aware of the corruption with the orange clown in charge, but prior politicians here also did nothing or barely anything at all. There must be a ton of financial kickback to these folks. They thus leech from the common man and common woman.
lotsofpulp 1 hour ago | parent
It’s much free-r than it used to be, when the paper on a pole and paying for a newspaper ad was the only option.
antihero 1 hour ago | parent