158 points mnapoli 19 hours ago 139 comments
ersind 19 hours ago | parent
JaceComix 19 hours ago | parent
I'm not saying this isn't a good idea or that people don't want something like this but... There's nothing here?
sidrag22 18 hours ago | parent
TheChelsUK 19 hours ago | parent
muslimpeacepriz 19 hours ago | parent
ajjenkins 19 hours ago | parent
ersind 19 hours ago | parent
embedding-shape 18 hours ago | parent
So not at all ready to be seen? Maybe we should all flag this so it can re-appear once someone spent at least a bit of time on making it proper and ready for public consumption?
mystifyingpoi 18 hours ago | parent
mnapoli 18 hours ago | parent
ajjenkins 17 hours ago | parent
I would describe the website as “twitter for developers and uses your GitHub account for auth”. It’s a simple concept, but I think using your GitHub account to sign in is a great idea and a meaningful differentiator. Good luck!
TZubiri 16 hours ago | parent
No good developer would introduce such a security risk for novelty.
herbst 2 hours ago | parent
probably_wrong 19 hours ago | parent
stephenlf 19 hours ago | parent
GitHub is the single most widely adopted, developer-specific OIDC identity provider.
If it’s facetious, then WSL BABYYYYYY
mystifyingpoi 18 hours ago | parent
bigwheels 18 hours ago | parent
hobofan 18 hours ago | parent
saghm 18 hours ago | parent
ASalazarMX 18 hours ago | parent
Edit: it's part of your profile already, better vibe code some random ideas to farm some GitHub dev credibility.
ranger_danger 18 hours ago | parent
ASalazarMX 18 hours ago | parent
Terr_ 17 hours ago | parent
For example, I'm sure there's a scary-talented engineer working on fluid simulation algorithms for a major aerospace manufacturer, and they would be fired if their work-product ever left the corporate VPN. Meanwhile, their personal stuff is in a self-hosted solution.
funshed 15 hours ago | parent
sandeepkd 18 hours ago | parent
retromagik 18 hours ago | parent
ASalazarMX 18 hours ago | parent
If 'dev' is developer, 'null' makes me think it's for worthless developers, or for things that developers don't care about.
bee_rider 16 hours ago | parent
pitched 18 hours ago | parent
ASalazarMX 18 hours ago | parent
ranger_danger 18 hours ago | parent
C:\> TYPE file.txt >NUL
C:\>28304283409234 17 hours ago | parent
iberator 15 hours ago | parent
What if Microsoft black listed me from GitHub forever? I'm also banned from Facebook for like decade
rvz 19 hours ago | parent
*Closes tab
aftbit 19 hours ago | parent
stephenlf 19 hours ago | parent
nailer 19 hours ago | parent
Isn't that Twitter?
verdverm 18 hours ago | parent
Discord is where more dev communities are moving to
nailer 17 hours ago | parent
verdverm 16 hours ago | parent
I think the people who remain (on any big social) are missing out on IRL alternatives, if you get into it, you will find it is a much more rewarding way to spend your time.
simonhamp 19 hours ago | parent
esaym 18 hours ago | parent
nailer 18 hours ago | parent
I don't know if I want to sign in, because I can't see any of the content.
antiloper 18 hours ago | parent
hk1337 18 hours ago | parent
I'm guessing that wasn't expected result.
sp4cec0wb0y 18 hours ago | parent
caaqil 18 hours ago | parent
If a, b and c are true, then this site is reinventing HN/proggit with forced GitHub login on top. NGMI.
ineptech 17 hours ago | parent
> Dave: "Bot, add a folder to my personal data store with the pictures I took this weekend and share it with everyone in my poker group"
> Sally: "I see that I've gotten an email from Dave with a magic link conveying access to something. Bot, use this link to negotiate a key exchange with whatever weird app Dave cobbled together (ask his bot if you need help) and then log into my VPS and add a tab to my personal webapp to display the content he has shared."
That might be overly optimistic, but it doesn't feel that far off. It's kind of what Tim Berners-Lee build https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_project for right?
flexagoon 17 hours ago | parent
There are also places like https://tilde.town/ if you want something more social media–esque
ineptech 16 hours ago | parent
That hasn't changed, but what has changed is that reading docs and writing the glue code is effectively free. The main problem with something like Solid is, if it takes even an hour to figure out how to get it going, I am effectively assigning my friends an hour of homework to be able to network with me. That's no longer true. If you like the Fediverse and I like Solid and Dave uses Nostr and Sally is stuck with some proprietary thing that came with her NAS, we can all build a network without any of us switching to, or even learning much about, each other's platforms.
raggi 10 hours ago | parent
voidfunc 17 hours ago | parent
layer8 16 hours ago | parent
soulofmischief 9 hours ago | parent
xyst 17 hours ago | parent
methodical 16 hours ago | parent
RonanSoleste 16 hours ago | parent
Joel_Mckay 10 hours ago | parent
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JdeBP 16 hours ago | parent
jchonphoenix 16 hours ago | parent
layer8 16 hours ago | parent
PaulKeeble 16 hours ago | parent
1vuio0pswjnm7 16 hours ago | parent
anavid7 14 hours ago | parent
talon8635 13 hours ago | parent
notpsychopath 9 hours ago | parent
1vuio0pswjnm7 7 hours ago | parent
https://www.facebook.com/robots.txt (186 sitemap files listed, none are accessible to me)
Perhaps these require an "acceptable browser" and/or an account
Why sitemap URLs. Because I'm a sitemaps user; I use sitemap files every day
The /dev/null ones seem to be easily accessible. Unlike some other "social networks"
flanz_10 16 hours ago | parent
ugh.
thisisauserid 16 hours ago | parent
bcourageous 14 hours ago | parent
SwellJoe 14 hours ago | parent
lskdkekxnwixn 13 hours ago | parent
chownie 13 hours ago | parent
lskdkekxnwixn 12 hours ago | parent
chownie 9 hours ago | parent
x______________ 11 hours ago | parent
Mental illnesses, fear, lack of trust, hatred for HN having a simplistic and prone-to-abuse account registration system, or being a complete asshat.. the list goes on.
SwellJoe 13 hours ago | parent
lskdkekxnwixn 12 hours ago | parent
SwellJoe 12 hours ago | parent
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Zambyte 12 hours ago | parent
Now that I have it up and running, my feed is entirely people just hating on LLMs. I have a hard time finding technical content that I enjoy on there these days.
SwellJoe 12 hours ago | parent
And, I would rather talk to an AI Luddite that's extraordinarily technically competent without AI assistance than someone who vibe-coded a startup with no idea how it works, and the former is far more common on the fediverse than the latter. I think it's unfortunate there's such a strong emotional component to talking about LLMs, as it's the most interesting technical innovation since the internet, but I understand it and I'm sympathetic to it (the AI companies have done a good job giving people reasons to hate and/or fear them).
Zambyte 9 hours ago | parent
It's likely just my bubble on there, but man it's relentless. I don't want to just hear everything about what you hate. I want to hear what you love!
ambigious7777 6 hours ago | parent
Karrot_Kream 11 hours ago | parent
But the problem with all of these Twitter clones is the political schism of Musk's acquisition has largely polarized the offshoots. You aren't just on alt-Twitter, you're on a specific polarized chunk of it.
Zambyte 9 hours ago | parent
matheusmoreira 12 hours ago | parent
SwellJoe 11 hours ago | parent
I follow many people who use infosec.exchange and hachyderm.io and they seem to be nerd-oriented instances. But it doesn't matter all that much, since you can follow and interact across the whole federation. I'd say just pick one that's reasonably large and old enough to have proven it is run by people who know how to run a reliable service and are in it for the long haul. It's possible to move to a new instance with only a little inconvenience, so don't agonize too much over it.
krapp 11 hours ago | parent
Before that I just had an account on multiple (mostly gamedev) instances.
Mastodon has its issues but one benefit of decentralization is you don't really have to commit to anything.
matheusmoreira 10 hours ago | parent
That sucks. I'm not exactly looking forward to joining another community with "strict" moderation.
Every mastodon instance I look up seems to be like this... Guess I'm stuck on X.
SwellJoe 9 hours ago | parent
And, you might like to look into what that actually means. In the case of mas.to, the controversial decisions include defederation of instances that have a history of bigotry, usually anti-trans bigotry (the kind of bigotry lots of mainstream social sites allow and even protect).
Defederation is a large hammer, so some folks think mas.to is too strict. But, I personally prefer no slurs or child porn in my feed (adults posting nudes of themselves with a content warning is fine, both by my reckoning and the policy of mas.to), so I've never had reason to complain, nor have I ever had an interaction with moderators.
X is far more censorious than Mastodon of the kinds of free speech that are actually politically meaningful, so I'm surprised you call it out specifically as your free speech safe space. But, if you mean the same thing Musk means when you say "free speech", the right to punch down with impunity, perhaps X is the right place. Punching down is exactly the kind of thing that gets you banned on many Mastodon instances. It is a place that is by and large extremely intolerant of intolerance, but accepting of most everything else.
matheusmoreira 6 hours ago | parent
Haven't seen anyone get censored on X without a court order yet, but I haven't been there that long. Who knows.
SwellJoe 5 hours ago | parent
I know. It isn't a mystery or a secret. It is easy for anyone, including you, to know.
https://www.advocate.com/media/alejandra-caraballo-banned-x
https://observer.com/2022/12/elon-musk-suspend-twitter-accou...
https://www.wired.com/story/x-twitter-ban-critics/
https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-x-twitter-account-...
It's pretty apparent neo-Nazis were welcomed back after Musk's purchase of the site and they've been paid for their engagement ragebait, while anyone who criticizes Musk or disagrees with his genocidal white nationalist views gets suspended or shadow-banned. Criticizing billionaires won't get you suspended on Mastodon, while hate speech against minorities will. I prefer that kind of moderation.
matheusmoreira 4 hours ago | parent
I've resigned to the fact people are always going to identify some outgroup to shun. It sucks when you're that outgroup, and the intolerance is not at all limited to literal neonazism. Just being an AI user is enough to turn up the heat these days. So I'd rather nobody have that censorship privilege.
Basically, I don't like it when neonazis get a pass while those calling them out get banned. I don't like it when minorities get a pass either. It's the inconsistency that makes me lose all respect for the community.
SwellJoe 4 hours ago | parent
You might also get banned from some instances if you post AI-generated content without clearly labeling it as such; misinformation and disinformation is often something people report, and generative AI is often used for that.
It is misleading to say Mastodon is the same as X just "the other side". The policies on the most popular Mastodon instances can be summed up as "don't be a bigot" (i.e. don't use slurs, don't demean people for who they are...anti-semitism, anti-LGBTQ, racism, religious intolerance, will get you banned).
And, it would be misleading to say that users not wanting to look at what you post is censorship. Mastodon.social or mas.to or any of the other big instances are not going to ban you for talking about AI. But, you might catch some blocks and a few insults from individuals if you post AI in a deceptive or annoying way. You're not owed engagement. But, if you're polite about it, you'll find people who like to talk about the same things. Even including AI.
But, finally, what the hell does this even mean, "I don't like it when minorities get a pass either"? A pass for being a minority? If someone posts abusively, they get blocked, maybe reported and maybe catch a ban. But, simply posting while black is not getting a pass.
matheusmoreira 3 hours ago | parent
> don't demean people for who they are
Unless they are acceptable targets of some enemy outgroup.
People already have numerous slurs for AIs and their users, and they aren't shy about using them.
> A pass for being a minority?
A pass for the very same behavior they claim to be against.
I expect people who are offended by slurs not to level any slurs at others.
I expect people who object to racism not to be racist towards others.
I expect people who object to sexism not to be sexist towards others.
I expect people who object to doxxing not to do it to others.
I expect anti-fascists not to display overtly fascist behavior.
And so on, and so forth. Many have failed these simple consistency tests.
> maybe catch a ban
Doubt. It's far more likely that I'm the one who will get banned if I dare to bring any of this up.
I suppose that's the reason people like me end up on X.
TrueRider 1 hour ago | parent
HN is absolutely not such a place, unfortunately, the local censorship policy is very strong.
TrueRider 1 hour ago | parent
What kind of nonsense are you talking about, show me at least one example of statements that can be interpreted in the way that you described? Leftists have gone completely berserk with their conspiracy theories.
baron3dl 9 hours ago | parent
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netrem 11 hours ago | parent
++ was (is?) the icon to upvote
davidcollantes 10 hours ago | parent
TrueRider 2 hours ago | parent