85 points surprisetalk 1 day ago 40 comments
esafak 22 hours ago | parent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vibrating_structure_gyroscope
Their peculiar geometry reminds me of computer-designed antenna.
jacquesm 20 hours ago | parent
Zeetah 22 hours ago | parent
deckar01 21 hours ago | parent
hermitShell 21 hours ago | parent
2. The opposing springs are normally in equilibrium, so in the absence of forces the center mass moves back to position zero.
3. Think of it like a bridge. The points of contact and support are to the sides and stationary, while the spring mass system is suspended in air or in a vacuum.
4. Is simple enough if you start with two disconnected layers of materials, and then etch the top layer. You could also start with a layer of something like photoresist spincoated on the bottom layer, except for the adhesion points...
An interesting real-life scenario was the possibility of helium atoms being able to get inside the MEMS clock of some smartphones and cause the phone to stop working until enough helium can escape.
teraflop 21 hours ago | parent
If you wanted to use such a device as a simple oscillator, you just set it vibrating and measure the oscillation frequency. Since the material isn't perfectly elastic, the vibrations will eventually be damped and die out (I guess this is what you mean by "friction"), so you use a feedback mechanism to keep the oscillation going.
A gyroscope works the same way, except that you use feedback to maintain an oscillation in one axis, and measure how much of that oscillation couples to a different axis. Whatever effect the damping has on the final measurement, I would assume it can be easily calibrated out.
I don't really know how they physically manufacture these devices without damaging the tiny, delicate structures. It's kind of mindblowing that they're so incredibly cheap.
andybak 21 hours ago | parent
God, I so hate the auto-title "fixing" feature on HN.
TZubiri 21 hours ago | parent
CommieBobDole 21 hours ago | parent
What is it even supposed to do?
SoftTalker 20 hours ago | parent
andybak 15 hours ago | parent
crustyoldhuman 21 hours ago | parent
mikestew 17 hours ago | parent
https://www.ifixit.com/News/11986/iphones-are-allergic-to-he...
mpassman 21 hours ago | parent
TheSkyHasEyes 21 hours ago | parent
TZubiri 21 hours ago | parent
alexpotato 20 hours ago | parent
It's an ESP32 with:
- microphone and speaker
- wifi
- bluetooth
- screen
- two buttons
- IMU with six dimensions
all for under $35.
You can see a video of me using it to control a web based mini plane simulator https://x.com/alexpotato/status/2109782226841870352?s=20
Wild how cheap this kind of stuff has gotten.
jacquesm 20 hours ago | parent
neuronic 20 hours ago | parent
unrented7977 17 hours ago | parent
pinum 20 hours ago | parent
Mistakes happen, but in a video about gyroscopes it's hard to forgive mistaking position and orientation. That's the kind of thing that warrants a delete and re-upload.
neuronic 20 hours ago | parent
On this note, thank you for pointing it out.
tonmoy 20 hours ago | parent
boxed 19 hours ago | parent
robotresearcher 20 hours ago | parent
The video talks about accels in a few places, and how they are required for pose estimates.
milesvp 19 hours ago | parent
This is not wrong at the pop sci level of the video.
Your phone undoubtedly has a gyroscope, accelerometer, and magnetometer all in a single IMU IC. Data from this IMU can be used to create a position cloud.
Add in some other sensor data to help collapse the position cloud, and your phone absolutely knows its position in space. Incidentally part of why IMU have magnetometers is that it’s basically one more sensor data to help collapse position clouds from just the orientation and acceleration data.
I think the only leap is how precise your phone would be with only gyroscopes generating orientation and acceleration data. But the video sort of hints at this when talking about the first rocket design using this data.
7734128 18 hours ago | parent
It's basically what VR headsets and controllers do, sans their periodic error correction from cameras or lighthouses.
pinum 18 hours ago | parent
Accelerometers yes, gyroscopes no. The video covers accelerometers later but hasn't introduced them yet, and the "your phone knows its position" line has a visual of an IC labelled "MEMS gryoscope".
7734128 17 hours ago | parent
trgn 20 hours ago | parent
gosub100 19 hours ago | parent
Maybe YouTube will cater to those who don't know/care about AI generated content. Given that they make money on the spread between showing ads and views that are not monetized (I assume there is some lower threshold such that yt doesn't have to pay anything?). Those viewers might be a higher tier of ad consumer; one that is easier fooled and manipulated.
It's only going to get harder to detect AI voice. Sometimes they can talk for 15m before one syllable is mispronounced. I'm sure they are working on adding breath sounds and inflection.
Or if it gets bad enough, they will charge for a tier that requires human verification from the creators, perhaps.
If I'm doing research, I don't mind if it's AI but it should be clearly labelled and de-selectable.
MayeulC 18 hours ago | parent
Using a gyroscope, you can look at it an hour after starting it, and understand how your orientation changed. Using a gyrometers, you need to continuously integrate the result (including the measurement error) to get your orientation: it's far less precise and tends to drift. Both laser and mems gyrometers suffer from this.
Besides this, the video is full of slop and likely AI-narrated. Someone mentioned the bacteria bit, I can also mention the weird-looking PCB image, where traces do not connect correctly to the chip.
dubbie99 14 hours ago | parent
hatthew 16 hours ago | parent
[0]: https://www.istockphoto.com/photo/toy-gyroscope-gm172188163-...