307 points iamnothere 2 days ago 197 comments
kyrra 2 days ago | parent
https://codeberg.org/libreboot/lbmk/src/branch/master/AGENTS...
relativeadv 2 days ago | parent
raverbashing 2 days ago | parent
ur-whale 2 days ago | parent
They're making a political choice. It's a free country, and more power to them.
It's not a choice that I necessarily agree with, but one that may - who knows - prove prescient 5 years down the road.
No one can predict the future, that's what politics are partly about and the reason why diversity of opinion of choice matters.
Do you have a crystal ball?
Cakez0r 2 days ago | parent
afavour 2 days ago | parent
mindslight 1 day ago | parent
Now having said that, AI also increases software freedom in that it enables many people who aren't otherwise able to understand codebases (or even write simple code) to create/modify their own software. When we're talking about AI in the context of libre software, this is the constructive aspect we should be focusing on! Well defined plugin APIs that we know people are going to lay slop upon, etc.
But still, this doesn't have much bearing on a well-established fundamental systems project that needs to remain generally concise and human-understandable.
ur-whale 1 day ago | parent
I believe you may have a rather narrow notion of what politics are.
In my book, politics is the art of making choices when your ability to predict the future is limited, and therefore the willingness, courage and fortitude to make choices under uncertainty.
Under that definition, they're making a choice, one that materially and obviously can't be backed by sound reasoning or logic (because predicting the future is hard), that's politics.
lioeters 1 day ago | parent
IslandRebel 2 days ago | parent
You can look at what being achieved right now with AI, GoW3 (an absolute master piece BTW) on the PS4 Remaster can be played on Linux at 120FPS thanks to some decompilation/reverse engineering framework with AI.
I am generally also fed up of politics (whatever they are) forced into projects.
Also AI doesn't make you stupid. It is bullshit, he has cherry picked information to sooth his own biases.
ur-whale 1 day ago | parent
You didn't get my point. It might very well be that the only project that lets you actually freely boot a computer in 5 years will be this one, specifically because they did not let an AI touch it.
In that regard, it will be the only project, like you put it, "that works".
Like I said, I don't necessary subscribe to their view, but the diversity of opinion matters, it helps with minor things like, oh, survival.
IslandRebel 1 day ago | parent
Why would AI matter? If you say legality, I really don't care that much about copyright law (I run a torrent box 24/7), and I would just git clone the repo and put it on tor. That is what people have been doing with plenty of projects that are more legally dubious.
Also, diversity of opinion doesn't necessarily help with survival either. I swear people just say things because other people have said it.
bigstrat2003 1 day ago | parent
Then more often than not, you want the project that eschews LLMs. They can't program worth a damn.
IslandRebel 1 day ago | parent
It is bizarre having conversations with some people. There is a reverse engineering framework that had God of War 3 remaster running natively on Linux at 120 fps and all this tech is AI-assisted. A friend of mine was demonstrating it running to me last night, and then people like yourself tell me AI can't do anything when you can download and run it yourself.
I just had it write a bunch of script hooks for gamemoderun and at work I had it do probably a week's worth of work in an afternoon earlier today. It also smoke-tested everything for me.
It is utterly bizarre, and I think you are just denying reality.
leahlibre 1 day ago | parent
afavour 2 days ago | parent
creata 2 days ago | parent
orbital-decay 1 day ago | parent
On the contrast, libreboot's stuff reads like a parody or a shitpost. It's hard to believe they're being entirely serious.
Gigachad 1 day ago | parent
bigfishrunning 2 days ago | parent
gorkish 2 days ago | parent
Coreboot still exists.
versooth 1 day ago | parent
It's a distribution. That is, they build and distribute firmware images. Coreboot just ships source.
Coreboot's docs lists the variety of distributions: https://doc.coreboot.org/distributions.html
jamesnorden 1 day ago | parent
lawtalkinghuman 1 day ago | parent
ketzu 2 days ago | parent
Also
> https://codeberg.org/ethical-foss/open-slopware
Feels more like a software discovery list than an indictment. Thanks for the categorization.
doublepg23 2 days ago | parent
You're not kidding, I feel like this is better than most of those awesome-X lists that were popular for a while.
BowBun 2 days ago | parent
kspacewalk2 1 day ago | parent
dorianniemiec 1 day ago | parent
KAMSPioneer 1 day ago | parent
Secureblue is a neat project, but as you say, this would make more sense as a generic discovery list. If you want to avoid projects with a permissive AI policy, you should probably take into account that Secureblue is based on bluebuild (from the Bazzite team), Fedora, Linux, etc etc etc.
repparw 22 hours ago | parent
ImaCake 2 days ago | parent
>The fork in question, of U-Boot, is heavily AI vibe-coded and thus useless to Libreboot. This is not mere conjecture; in said aforementioned U-Boot mailing list thread, the author stated thus. We will not, in any way, encourage or facilitate use of AI. It has been made clear that several projects Libreboot uses also have some AI-assisted commits; GCC, GRUB, etc. This is not our fault, but it is my intention that I and others will audit these projects in the future, de-slopping them and possibly even forking them entirely for that very reason.
p-e-w 2 days ago | parent
Someone who acts like a radical on practical issues will almost certainly act like a radical in other areas as well - including areas that matter to me.
There are debates to be had on every technology, but foaming-at-the-mouth kind of talk is a sure sign of a maintainer (and by extension a project) I want nothing to do with.
I respect projects with a no AI policy, but if that policy starts with the words “fuck no”, I’m out of there.
ImaCake 2 days ago | parent
trollbridge 1 day ago | parent
Agentic AI has allowed 86Box to make massive strides forward. This includes a substantial contribution to emulate the Intel Inboard 386 that was created by someone who describes himself as a non-programmer. The community is now bigger and stronger, although we’ve had some aches and pains with slop AI generated PRs.
The same goes for Gravity Linux which is booting in my M4 Macs with working GPU and most other peripherals. What used to take years now takes weeks, so we can do much more thorough testing and ultimately have a better end product.
rnd0 1 day ago | parent
AI code is legally nebulous and relying on it for a serious project has major risks. Linux has already fended off SCO and has deep pockets to boot. Not all open source projects do.
More projects should be thinking less about the 'moral' issues (yes, they exist) and more about the nuts and bolts province and liability issues of using unverifiable code.
Yes, Linux uses it -because they're big and professional and have allies like IBM and Microsoft (ironies of ironies) on their side.
YOU do not.
kouteiheika 1 day ago | parent
It won't, for a very simple reason. The same reason why the world isn't in the middle of a nuclear winter right now. Mutually assured destruction.
Every single proprietary software vendor right now is making heavy use of AI code generation, and we're already at a point of no return where pretty much every single commercially relevant codebase out there is contaminated. Do you really think companies will go on a suing spree where by doing so they will open up themselves to being sued for exactly the same reason?
rnd0 1 day ago | parent
An interesting take, which I honestly hadn't considered.
The problem remains that it is still a cudgel which larger companies can still use it to shut down smaller companies/free alternatives. I'm thinking a similar situation to the abuse of the DMCA -but we'll find out.
AdmiralAsshat 1 day ago | parent
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cromka 1 day ago | parent
leahlibre 1 day ago | parent
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CursedSilicon 1 day ago | parent
cwiggs 1 day ago | parent
Not to say this "radical" behavior is helpful, and I understand why people don't like it.
zenoprax 1 day ago | parent
In another project (literally: "Untitled") of theirs they are explicit about motivation:
> This is to fight against the trend of crappy github-powered websites that plague the internet.
qlte 1 day ago | parent
The parent comment is closer to saying that Picasso wouldn't have been Picasso if in an alternate universe he had avoided controversial/politically charged subjects like the Spanish Civil War and instead appealed to the lowest common denominator for a mainstream commercial audience to sell postcards.
simonask 1 day ago | parent
I think there are extremely legitimate reasons to be critical of that part at the very least, and I don't think it's a particularly "radical" stance within Free Software, which is fundamentally conscientious of such questions.
(I don't know whether the Libreboot authors have this particular point in mind.)
CircuitSeuss 1 day ago | parent
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primarily9 1 day ago | parent
Already in 2022, before the rise of these LLMs, there was a book "Resisting AI: An Anti-fascist Approach to Artificial Intelligence" by Dan McQuillan.
And then:
> The rapid development of digital technologies, including applications of artificial intelligence (AI), is having a significant impact on the social, economic, and political life. From the way individuals communicate and form relationships to the methods by which political discourse and economic transactions occur, digital technologies increasingly mediate our lives and societies. But while presented as milestones in innovation and progress, these technological transformations have also raised concerns about democracy (Nemitz 2018; Kreps and Kriner 2023; Jungherr 2023; Coeckelbergh 2024) and seem to introduce and support mechanisms of control, forms of organization, and ideological patterns that bear striking resemblances to historical fascist phenomena.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00146-026-02862-9
Further,
> being plausible but slightly wrong and un-auditable-at scale-is the killer feature of LLMs, not a bug that will ever be meaningfully addressed, and this combination of properties makes it an essentially fascist technology. By “fascist” in this context, I mean that it is well suited to centralizing authority, eliminating checks on that authority and advancing an anti-science agenda.
https://blog.bgcarlisle.com/2025/05/16/a-plausible-scalable-...
Marc Andreessen have called one of the two authors of the very Fascist Manifesto his patron saint. Search for Marinetti on https://a16z.com/the-techno-optimist-manifesto/
A very influential blogger, Curtis Yarvin who have started Dark Enlightenment, the philosophy behind it all regularly posts straight nazi shit. He also has influenced JD Vance and Peter Thiel who have been instrumental in the creation of OpenAI. https://www.wired.com/story/book-excerpt-the-optimist-open-a... More on Dark Enlightenment https://www.cccb.org/en/w/articles/nick-land-or-the-origins-... and https://qz.com/1007144/the-neo-fascist-philosophy-that-under... "a few consistent themes, circling around technology, warfare, feudalism, corporate power, and racism".
I know this won't be popular with this crowd but most of you have become supporters of the rising fascism in the United States by not resisting these LLMs.
axus 1 day ago | parent
bit-anarchist 1 day ago | parent
Given that these groups are basically composed of communists, if not tankies, that's not surprising. Specially when some of those served as sabotours for the USSR (notorious for its respect for human dignity).
> https://blog.bgcarlisle.com/2025/05/16/a-plausible-scalable-...
This is an incredible piece of anti-intellectualism. Its arguments aren't compelling either: AI might flood with innacurate studies that are difficult to check. Rather than improving said check as to reduce the reliance on trust and improve science as a whole; like the good reactionary the author is, they proppose to ban this particular technology. AI also centralizes authority... because? There is also an irony in them complaining about this theoretical centralization while also trying to preserve the inherent trust-based system in academia, so I suspect they aren't actually committed to proper intellectualism. There is more to complain about this post, but, then, it would hijack this whole comment.
> Marc Andreessen have called one of the two authors of the very Fascist Manifesto his patron saint. Search for Marinetti on [...]
Is it surprising that the guy who founded Futurism, a rather radical and aggressive celebration of innovation and progress, would be mentioned in a movement about technological progress?
> A very influential blogger, Curtis Yarvin who have started Dark Enlightenment, the philosophy behind it all regularly posts straight nazi shit. He also has influenced JD Vance and Peter Thiel who have been instrumental in the creation of OpenAI.
JD Vance hasn't been instrumental to OpenAI's creation, and Peter Thiel is just one of its original investors. Not to mention, NRx is a mess of movement composed of contradictory ideas.
I have noticed you have been using "these LLMs". While I do agree that distancing from OpenAI's models is good (even if it's just on the basis of decentralization), the anti-AI movement either wants to monopolize AI via regulation or ban it outright.
mindslight 1 day ago | parent
It's libreboot. The entire point of its creation was to take coreboot and rip out the non-libre blobs. Its author is trans (IIRC), which also carries its own very pointed perspective on the world.
Some of it goes too far in my own opinion - I have no problem trusting AMD's final microcode for the Opteron 63xx any differently than the baked-in mask for the 62xx. But regardless, I respect someone who is pushing the whole envelope as they see it. At the very least their effort creates a lot of things I do care about!
mindslight 1 day ago | parent
Forgeties79 1 day ago | parent
People say AI or not, if the thing is good then it should be used. But if a group actively rejects it (which is valid even if I’m not that militant myself) it compromises the project suddenly?
prmoustache 1 day ago | parent
bigstrat2003 1 day ago | parent
Not using LLMs is a practical choice. The tech doesn't work, and if you let it run amok in your software, your software becomes crap. I try to avoid projects that use LLMs for development as much as I can, because those projects have a much higher likelihood of being a buggy mess.
jameshilliard 1 day ago | parent
I saw this as well, which is funny because I've sent plenty of patches written using AI assistance to upstream U-Boot. It was my understanding that U-Boot was mostly following kernel conventions in general as many U-Boot drivers share code(in addition to the actual subsystem maintainers themselves) with their kernel equivalents.
cromka 1 day ago | parent
Or, hear me out, they could instead just improve and contribute the code they think is suboptimal
Loquebantur 1 day ago | parent
> think AI makes you super hacker? think again: https://arxiv.org/abs/2507.09089 ["Measuring the Impact of Early-2025 AI on Experienced Open-Source Developer Productivity"]
> https://blog.codeberg.org/protecting-our-floss-commons-from-...
> consider that the infrastructure for AI is economically unsustainable; when the bubble bursts, and it will, we will suddenly be left with millions of people thoroughly deskilled who will be useless. lots of reeducation needed, and lots of people will just be left behind.
> consider that it is controlled by only a minority of very wealthy individuals; with it, they have unprecedented control over human thought through manipulation of information, and control over what information is presented through filtering (what they call training).
> AI is a threat to the health and democracy of our entire world.
> libreboot will not facilitate its use. AI is the most dangerous technology ever invented by human beings.
...
They have plenty of reasons not to.
jameshilliard 1 day ago | parent
This one especially really just shows they are cherry picking things which support a particular position regardless of the relevance, the difference between Early-2025 AI and Late-2026 AI is absolutely massive. Early 2026 it was reported by Greg Kroah-Hartman that AI bug reports rapidly went from obviously wrong or low quality to being real reports.[0] The kernel now has AI tooling heavily integrated into patch review workflows as well with quite good results.[1]
> They have plenty of reasons not to.
Not really any good reasons however.
[0] https://www.theregister.com/software/2026/03/26/linux-kernel...
bigstrat2003 1 day ago | parent
No. No it is not, despite how many times AI proponents like to claim it is.
jameshilliard 1 day ago | parent
Why do you think there isn't a huge difference? I've used AI tools over this time period and the difference is very obvious.
ahelwer 1 day ago | parent
aniviacat 22 hours ago | parent
If you only accept papers that were published in reputable venues and analyze LLMs that are less than a month old, you are left with zero useful papers (since writing a useful paper takes longer than a month). It is impossible to have an intellectual discussion if all scientific material is disregarded.
jameshilliard 14 hours ago | parent
Why would one look only at formal published scientific papers? Especially if the only publications are known to be quite outdated and highly likely to be no longer particularly relevant anymore.
> It is impossible to have an intellectual discussion if all scientific material is disregarded.
One can certainly have an intellectual discussion even for areas without relevant formal published scientific papers.
Certainly one can do so if the subject matter is in the area of your own expertise, that can even lead to scientific papers being written.
I'm an experienced open source developer leveraging AI tools for linux kernel, u-boot and buildroot contributions in addition to reverse engineering, so clearly this subject is well within my area of expertise regardless of what some outdated published research says.
I probably wouldn't even disagree with that paper's assessment at the time, however the situation is very different now. I have noticed that there is an issue with many experienced open source developers simply having not figured out how to properly leverage AI for open source projects they work on. Probably one reason for this is that productive workflows with AI are often very different from previous workflows and it takes some practice to figure out how to best use AI tools, these best practice can also change over time.
jack_pp 1 day ago | parent
what do you mean by this, that costs will become too high and people won't afford it? hardware won't go up in smoke "when the bubble bursts"
t-3 1 day ago | parent
leahlibre 1 day ago | parent
for my part, when i do work on this, what i will do is this: re-use existing nuke.list mechanism in lbmk (used already to delete dubious files, e.g. code files with unclear licensing in u-boot) to delete the slopped files. then provide cleaned versions of the same files, with necessary patching re-written as necessary, and files that use it patched to include e.g. foo.deslop.c instead of foo.c - then git history is removed inside tarballs. filter out the changelogs for projects accordingly.
this is the most reasonable way to do it on projects with very little slop. with projects that become almost entirely slop, a hard fork becomes necessary.
yjftsjthsd-h 1 day ago | parent
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jameshilliard 1 day ago | parent
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trollbridge 1 day ago | parent
tecleandor 1 day ago | parent
> ...it is my intention that I and others will audit these projects in the future, de-slopping them...
cromka 1 day ago | parent
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opan 22 hours ago | parent
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Gigachad 1 day ago | parent
Time will tell if these new AI allowed projects like artcraft will prove more popular than fully human curated ones.
matheusmoreira 1 day ago | parent
I'm not sure I want to participate in this space anymore if everyone is just going to have their own isolated forks. I might as well keep my own private version of everything and never deal with maintainers ever again.
Gigachad 1 day ago | parent
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john_strinlai 2 days ago | parent
>"think AI makes you super hacker? think again: https://arxiv.org/abs/2507.09089"
not that im particularly pro-ai, but it seems a bit silly to rely on a paper about early-2025 ai when people are using late-2026 ai, given how different they are.
leahlibre 1 day ago | parent
john_strinlai 1 day ago | parent
i do not believe you are asking that question in good faith.
and, if you are the leah who wrote the policy, i am positive this would be a completely fruitless discussion as you are obviously entrenched in your beliefs. i am not under the delusion that anything i could say, show, or prove to you would change your mind.
leahlibre 1 day ago | parent
john_strinlai 1 day ago | parent
good luck with your project. i'll mark this one down as "like the art, dislike the artist"
jameshilliard 1 day ago | parent
Just like most technologies AI algorithms and tools get continuously refined/improved over time.
One thing modern AI has gotten especially good at in the last year is reverse engineering, it went from struggling and frequently making mistakes when analyzing binaries even with say a specialized Ghidra MCP integration to being able to very quickly and accurately analyze even heavily stripped BROM binaries with almost no user guidance or specialized environments. Binaries that would previously take days or weeks to analyze can be analyzed by a modern AI in minutes to hours.
The difference is massive and obvious to anyone who has been working with these tools over these time periods.
TiredOfLife 1 day ago | parent
comex 1 day ago | parent
For me it's only been in the last month with Opus 5.5 that I've been seeing code quality I actually respect (though this is with substantial human effort in the loop). Though this experience is from work where I don't have access to non-Anthropic models, nor Fable.
rsynnott 1 day ago | parent
opan 21 hours ago | parent
john_strinlai 21 hours ago | parent
however, productivity is sensitive to the model, and models have significantly improved in the last 1.5-2 years. sometimes things move quickly and research gets outdated. ai is not the first field where this has happened.
the research is still valuable, it just has to be acknowledged that it is specific to a point in time. using it for an argument 2 years later just shows that the leah is being intellectually dishonest, and it weakens the overall message.
ChickeNES 2 days ago | parent
yjftsjthsd-h 1 day ago | parent
(Signed, the owner of several Chromebooks in need of better firmware)
Cider9986 2 days ago | parent
You can't expect to sufficiently protect your users privacy when not using AI for finding vulnerabilities.
Same thing with Asahi Linux with their highly anti-AI stance. I had a bit of hope when I saw someone was making an LLM assisted fork but it's not the same support.
While MacOS is likely becoming much more secure, Linux distros that reject AI would fall even further behind, if that's possible.
Edit: added critical
trollbridge 1 day ago | parent
The Linux kernel extensively uses AI now; most lkml submissions have an Assisted-by: LLM tag.
bitwize 1 day ago | parent
Robot friends enable you to get much more done faster and more accurately, that if you call yourself an engineer you're a damn fool not to make use of them.
computerfriend 1 day ago | parent
Do you have a link? Because this contradicts the kernel documentation.
bitwize 20 hours ago | parent
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Cider9986 1 day ago | parent
How so?
sicktriple 1 day ago | parent
Cider9986 1 day ago | parent
Going by this definition [1]:
>Privacy is the assurance that your data is only seen by the parties you intend to view it.
I’ve been assuming we’re using open source software. When developing open source, you’re putting your code out publicly. Your code is not private data.
As far as the agent acting on your computer, you can easily use Claude Code on the web on Anthropic’s VMs, or just run it in something like UTM or another user on your laptop.
So I don’t see how this is a big loss of privacy. By the definition, you’re intending Anthropic to see your code just as anyone else can.
Ways you could use AI in a non-privacy respecting way would be like letting it read all your personal notes while assuming the AI company will not share them or look at them. I don’t see code as sensitive like this.
Your prompts, pattern of speech, usage patterns, when you work, stuff you say to the LLM besides coding related. Those would be a fair argument for compromising the privacy of the developer. But as long as you consider what you say to be public, then you're intending that data to be out their, so your privacy isn't being compromised. You could make the same argument about developing in the open on GitHub. Anyone can learn about your usage patterns, time zone, etc. It is also fair to say you're giving that AI company more power over you by giving them exclusively that information, while on GitHub it would be information given to everyone. .
[1] https://www.privacyguides.org/en/basics/why-privacy-matters/
sicktriple 1 day ago | parent
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doublerabbit 2 days ago | parent
Fork it and use Ai if you have a problem.
jgarzik 1 day ago | parent
The Linux kernel has always been focused on outcomes and outputs, which is the right focus. Here's Linus: https://x.com/LundukeJournal/status/2110524360377458786
Outputs: Code quality and long term maintenance matters. Outputs: Serving users with correctness, security and performance matters.
Focus on "purity of input" is a faith-based political filter, not engineering.
bakugo 1 day ago | parent
Someone should ask him if he's also planning on no longer reviewing patches to the kernel and just accepting them unconditionally, since AI is no different from a compiler after all, and nobody reviews compiler outputs.
forcedtolinux 1 day ago | parent
bakugo 1 day ago | parent
Yes, and that take is bad, because AI is not a tool in the traditional sense. In the software world, tools are generally expected to be deterministic. Would Linus use a compiler that is known to have a random chance to output the wrong instructions? Or an editor that has a random chance to swap something you typed for something else?
> compiler outputs are tested by the compiler projects + the automated testing infra
And AI outputs are tested by the AI companies and the various testing suites that are run on the kernel. If they're really the same like Linus seems to believe, there's no reason to ever read AI generated patches before merging them.
audience_mem 1 day ago | parent
Says who?
rnd0 1 day ago | parent
After the SCO mess, I'm very shocked he didn't reject AI out of hand simply for the provenance and liability issues.
brendoelfrendo 1 day ago | parent
sarjann 1 day ago | parent
The right way is something like, we've been getting spammed with a bunch of PR's from AI that we find difficult to review (because AI allows the average bob who isn't technically minded to make a PR). We have therefore decided not to allow AI submissions.
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I think the people who have some moral / ideological issue and bring that into projects kind of feel like clowns to me. I agree with Linus that the point is to make something that people find useful, and obviously you want it to be maintainable.
Saying "it makes you dumber etc" is not related to the project, with all due respect it's non of your fucking business how I learn / retain skills.
bheadmaster 1 day ago | parent
I feel people have the right to bring any sort of issue into the projects they make. Nobody is forced to participate.
sicktriple 1 day ago | parent
In a world where software exerts considerable control and influence over peoples' lives, your ability to insulate yourself from that influence is a priveledge. Software IS ideological. Free software was created so people can have the freedom to share and collaborate on their own terms. There is an extent to which it gets extreme, but without the GPL we would live in an even more monopolistic "free" market hell world than we already do. That's a moral obligation that spawned a practical one. If no one ever took a moral stance because you find it annoying, the world would be an objectively worse place.
rsynnott 1 day ago | parent
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TaLiTr 1 day ago | parent
It's their own business to disallow AI contributions. But instead of adding that to the Code Of Conduct they chose to knowingly misuse a file to target a group of people they don't like.
If I want to use AI on my copy of that repo, I have to delete that file and consider if the developer has added any more of what is (by intent) basically malware to the source code. Sure the file is just an unhinged rant, but now I have to wonder if they attempted to put some prompt injection in the repo.
rsynnott 1 day ago | parent
Like, c’mon now. This is far from the weirdest open source restriction.
TaLiTr 1 day ago | parent
Would you be OK if a repo had Visual Studio files that were designed to crash visual studio if they are used, just because the maintainer hates Microsoft? That's what this feels like, a deliberate malicious abuse of the intent that adding agents.md would otherwise imply.
mschuster91 1 day ago | parent
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AdmiralAsshat 2 days ago | parent
Nice. I think I loaded MrChromebox onto my Google Pixel some years ago. I should see if it can get Libreboot now.
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cwiggs 1 day ago | parent
I'm now working on the 2nd ChromeOS device in this PR right now: https://github.com/linuxboot/heads/pull/2225 And there is a 3rd port by someone else: https://github.com/linuxboot/heads/pull/2219
I'm surprised Libreboot was able to add all the ChromeOS devices at once, Just adding the 2 ports for Heads hasn't been easy, although I'm not an expert when it comes to Coreboot.
Anyway, I love seeing more support for Chromebooks, they are great devices. Funny enough my Acer Chromebook (Kano) is now more open and more secure than my Framework 13s.
iamnothere 1 day ago | parent
It may be harder to port it if those features require neutered (rather than simply removed) blobs. Maybe that’s why the Libreboot port was easier? Not sure, I’m aware of the benefits that Heads provides but I don’t know much about the internals.
Either way, thanks for your work on this.
cpburns2009 1 day ago | parent
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iamnothere 1 day ago | parent
Old Libreboot is now apparently Canoeboot, same dev but different project name.
leahlibre 1 day ago | parent
lf88 1 day ago | parent
Besides considering frontier LLMs a serious threat to humanity, I find LLM-assisted programming simply...not fun! I tolerate only AI-assisted bug reports, as they are genuinely useful.
rnd0 1 day ago | parent
My issues, personally, are the IP rights issues. What was this shit trained on? When the bubble pops (as I've said a lot in this thread -I know) who's going to shake me down?
bassie123 1 day ago | parent
cwiggs 1 day ago | parent
There is also the Framework 13 Chromebook edition, but that seems almost impossible to find now-a-days.
bassie123 1 day ago | parent
Krei-se 1 day ago | parent
It just works and that's great.
ChocolateGod 1 day ago | parent
This is interesting given Googlebooks actually use the same boot process as Chromebooks, they just chain into aboot.
peter_d_sherman 1 day ago | parent
This is great news! Finally an open-source UEFI replacement which can work on nearly every Chromebook, including used/old Chromebooks!
Now, I haven't reviewed the source... it may still contain binary blobs for various drivers; I don't know. If it doesn't, then that's absolutely awesome! But if it does, then remember that having some of the UEFI firmware code open-source is a huge step forward, and it's only a matter of time before those closed-source binary blobs are reverse engineered (possibly by AI) and/or rewritten from scratch entirely, as open-source codebases...
So, a good step forward for open-source, right-to-repair, understandability of the boot chain, the Chromebook hardware ecosystem (used and new), and tranparency in general!
inventor7777 1 day ago | parent
I am very glad to see people with opinions that flow into what they do, but the question becomes: are you trying to make the best software, or make the most idealistic software? There's a big difference.
I am not at all advocating the use of straight AI slop, but with a policy like that you're opening yourself up for missed bugs, security issues, delayed features, and other things. Especially if you move away from software just because an AI wrote one line of code in it. You can still review the code. If it does the thing right, then use it!
shrubble 1 day ago | parent
sylware 1 day ago | parent
But... it should be binary specifications with "human-like" assembly implementations since you have to remove the "compiler" issue from the SDK.