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Iran school bombing: grounds to believe US was behind atrocity, UN finds

117 points hebelehubele 2 hours ago 46 comments

boesboes 1 hour ago | parent

That was never a question right?

throwaway198846 1 hour ago | parent

Yes which is why this is an uninteresting thread

bragr 1 hour ago | parent

Well the US government tried to deny it was a school at first, so that's put to bed at least.

master_crab 1 hour ago | parent

Yeah if I remember it was Iranian tomahawks that caused it.

(Edit: I am merely relaying what they said, not that I in anyway subscribe to it)

shevy-java 1 hour ago | parent

I remember that too. Initially they tried to go the "Iran caused this". Then the analysis quickly showed that it were US weapons. Suddenly the "Iran caused this" narrative disappeared. There are professional liars in media. Their job is to lie and obfuscate.

tokai 43 minutes ago | parent

>the analysis quickly showed

Wasn't the analysis a literal image with the Tomahawk caught mid air, clearly identifiable?

NorwegianDude 1 hour ago | parent

The US even said it was Iran who did it. The US has literally become the least trustworthy nation in the world by lying about everything, threatening to go to war against allies for no other reason than wanting the land...

shevy-java 1 hour ago | parent

Trump claimed it was an accident. Then again he seems to be similar to Putin: both lie almost all of the time.

Edit: Actually, others pointed out that at first the narrative was that Iran did it. That's indeed true that the media used that; perhaps one can even build up a timestamp of media reporting falseness here. I forgot which media reported the above lie first.

runmanny 1 hour ago | parent

The trump defenders are oddly quiet in this thread.

saadn92 56 minutes ago | parent

They’d like us to believe otherwise (the administration)

gcanyon 1 hour ago | parent

> failed to adequately verify the information before launching the strike

I'm so proud to be an American today :-(

megous 1 hour ago | parent

You can also be proud that your country is about to send another 40-60 thousand 1 ton bombs for free to a country that used the previous lesser sized free batch to kill 20 thousnad children in the most horrific ways imaginable.

I guess it was judged a success so more was deemed appropriate.

MomsAVoxell 1 hour ago | parent

Then do something about it - inform yourself about the other days.

The USA has been dropping bombs on innocent people on average for the past 25 years every 15 minutes.

The only force capable of reining in the US’ out of control military industrial complex, is the American people themselves. Until they do, the atrocities continue unabated.

zzgo 1 hour ago | parent

I can't even get the government to take masked federal agents off my streets, how the hell am I going to rein (not reign) in the military industrial complex?

runmanny 1 hour ago | parent

I can’t stop them from tracking our posts to use against us under NPSM7 at some point in the future.

MomsAVoxell 1 hour ago | parent

Don’t use political violence, intimidation, and domestic terror.

Use your democracy while you still can.

skeledrew 28 minutes ago | parent

What democracy?

MomsAVoxell 1 hour ago | parent

Indeed, it may be too late for you to do anything effective about it.

What the war criminals that have run your country for decades have done to other nations, they are now going to do to yours.

Protest, inform yourself, demand that your peers are informed, and do not for one instance just let apathy rule. Get out there on the streets every single time, write your representatives, use whatever tepid remains of your ‘democracy’ you have left. Divest yourself of any investments in the military industrial complex - and be damned sure you don’t support it, in any way whatsoever.

Demand justice for your own war criminals at a higher pitch and tempo than the call to eradicate cultures deemed inferior by those very war criminals.

What they do to other nations they will do to yours. Never forget this.

ngcazz 1 hour ago | parent

It's not gonna be low-stakes protests like No Kings, I'll tell you that.

pezezin 29 minutes ago | parent

Don't you guys have your famous 2nd amendment to protect your democracy from tyrants?

ungreased0675 1 hour ago | parent

Innocent people? Really?

MomsAVoxell 45 minutes ago | parent

Yes, really.

ImJamal 25 minutes ago | parent

Well the girls in the school that the US bombed were innocent.

sph 1 hour ago | parent

Better late than never to look past the propaganda, I guess.

toasty228 1 hour ago | parent

It's been like that every single time you guys went to the middle east, not just "today" lmao

Some of it is publicly available on videos for 15+ years, nobody cares: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rXPrfnU3G0

r_lee 1 hour ago | parent

let me guess, the end result of this will be "strong condemnation"?

jackmott42 1 hour ago | parent

While vacationing in Colorado I was approached by a young man and woman who wanted to tell me about Christianity, towards the end I told them that I do no view Christians in America as good people as group, and gave them various reasons why, the support of Trump being a main reason. Supporting someone so overtly evil while pretending to be righteous and godly was clearly contradictory to me, the whole situation caused me to view religious people not as misinformed but actively disingenuous (those smart enough to know better anyway). He snapped back with "OBAMA BOMBED A SCHOOL"

Which, at the time I thought, yes its bad that US presidents almost all are willing to do war when it isn't a good idea, but Obama isn't the president right now and I think you can expect Trump to bomb some schools too man.

and here we are.

As an side, fuck every single person here that supported or made excuses for the GOP in the last two decades, I will never forgive you.

zzgo 1 hour ago | parent

> "OBAMA BOMBED A SCHOOL"

Obama the Christian?

toasty228 1 hour ago | parent

That's his half brother Obamna, Trump made the same mistake

tokai 40 minutes ago | parent

the classic gotcha that doesn't work on outsiders that don't care about the partisan devide. All US presidents going back for quite a while are war criminals.

ReptileMan 1 hour ago | parent

ECHR, UN and ECJ will find any and everything as crime against humanity so it is best to ignore them and make your own judgement. It is like asking ADL if something is antisemitism or SPLC if something is racism - the answer will always be yes, so why bother.

Zealotux 36 minutes ago | parent

Oh ok, so then how do you qualify this event? As whoopsie? A misclick?

iAMkenough 28 minutes ago | parent

Okay. My own judgement is targeting strikes on an elementary school full of hundreds of school children is a war crime.

Do you not want to see accountability for that? Are you not pro-life?

shevy-java 1 hour ago | parent

GPS spies on everyone. Flock cameras too. Meta-spy glasses continue that trend.

Now officials tell the public "we used old maps" when bombing a school with kids. That's a deliberate lie. It wastes our time to even want to lend any credibility to wanting to believe such a lie.

ranger_danger 49 minutes ago | parent

> GPS spies on everyone.

That's... not how GPS works.

CommanderData 39 minutes ago | parent

Whenever I read the US or Israel wanting to free Iran from it's "horrible regime", remember this incident plus the hospitals targeted during their attack.

sschueller 38 minutes ago | parent

I hope it was not deliberate but it may have been. Blowing up the kids of military generals is a strategic move when you ignore the "rules of war".

BariumBlue 38 minutes ago | parent

Wasn't it right next to a military base, and previously used as part of that military base? And therefore a reasonable part of the targeting list that should've gotten more scrutiny but just didn't?

This feels like someone wanted to slander the US military actions, could only find one unambiguously negative thing, so then they pontificated on that.

trehalose 18 minutes ago | parent

I don’t understand your attitude. The slaughter of hundreds of children seems genuinely inherently upsetting and unacceptable to me. I don’t see why an element of negligence would make this something to just “not pontificate on” in a court of law or in public discourse.

esseph 13 minutes ago | parent

> This feels like someone wanted to slander the US military actions, could only find one unambiguously negative thing, so then they pontificated on that.

If a soldier on the ground had called in the airstrike, there is a good chance they would be in military prison.

The fact that the administration itself did it means nothing will happen.

Always know what you're shooting at, especially if it changed purposes over a decade ago.

pmkary 27 minutes ago | parent

Yes because normal people have tomahawks they can shoot to schools in their basements, and it required a court to find out who was responsible: United States, Dr. Evil, or the Cookie Monster?

pickleglitch 26 minutes ago | parent

I don't know, Cookie Monster is pretty suspicious. Never trust a junkie.

pmkary 16 minutes ago | parent

Yes but I'm sure there was oil under the school and it was all for the best. After all "it’s more fun doing it this way."

skeledrew 23 minutes ago | parent

So... what's gonna be done about it? The recent precedent has been to invade the country, grab the president and try them.

pmkary 14 minutes ago | parent

A very good one minute summary of exactly what is about to happen: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2Whrat_Rn0I