52 points stmw 2 hours ago 28 comments
jauntywundrkind 2 hours ago | parent
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/05/09/trump-intelligence-...
https://www.npr.org/2016/12/13/505348507/what-exactly-is-the...
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/tulsi-gabbard-reveals-li...
boredatoms 2 hours ago | parent
mandeepj 1 hour ago | parent
cyberax 38 minutes ago | parent
SoftTalker 22 minutes ago | parent
tw04 13 minutes ago | parent
Which is probably why Biden didn’t attack Iran.
ck2 7 minutes ago | parent
also Roy Cohn taught him reality doesn't matter, just make up any lie and repeat it to the very end until that's all people will respond to
now he's surrounded by people that only tell him what he wants to hear like his "human printer" with $45,000 "xmas gifts"
imagine if there was an actual attack now
he'd invade Canada, seriously, wouldn't matter who did it, he'd make up a reason and repeat it constantly until it's the only talking point
notice how we're not talking about the Epstein Files anymore?
SOB changed the topic enough times to make it slide out of the news
Animats 3 minutes ago | parent
Trump does get regular briefs several times a day, by Natalie Harp. Her job is to find flattering press reports, print them out for Trump, and hand them to him.[2] She has a backpack with a battery-powered printer for this when away from the White House.
[1] https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/gabbard-c...
[2] archive.is/CFCQT
legitster 2 hours ago | parent
Case in point, just going off of the reports here it would have been hard to predict what happened. They were concerned about Bin Laden starting civil wars, taking embassies, launching a biological attack, cells in Europe, etc. And even their preliminary reports about a possible plane hijacking in the US presumed it would be a simple quid pro quo for prisoner releases.
I'm worried this release is being thinly veiled as an attack on previous administrations. But it should be pointed out that the current administration eschews intelligence entirely and has no qualms about worsening the country's current security posture.
bawolff 1 hour ago | parent
To be useful, information doesn't just have to have a good false negative rate, it also has to have a good false positive rate, and be specific. Otherwise its useless as you can't persue every possible lead.
ilamont 58 minutes ago | parent
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/11/us/politics/cia-sept-11-i... (gift article)
KennyBlanken 2 minutes ago | parent
KennyBlanken 4 minutes ago | parent
There is one PDB per day. One. It is a presentation, not just a sheet of paper. And it's assembled by a team who are producing something for someone who (normally) is the most scheduled person alive save astronauts, who are well aware of that person's fixed resources in terms of time and attention.
Acting like the amount of information presented, especially to someone with extensive executive experience as the governor of Texas, is somehow overwhelming, is beyond disingenuous.
The important context missing here is that Bush was infamous for treating the PDBs like a hassle he didn't want to have to deal with.
The important context missing here is that the terrorists practically put up a neon flashing sign saying "WE WANT TO HIJACK AIRLINERS." They literally told instructors they only cared about specific phases of flight - I think one said "we don't need to know how to land." You know, the hardest part of flying a plane?
The important context missing here is that the WTC attack was used to justify a massive amount of domestic spying.
The last important context missing is that the current president has a very similar attitude toward almost any form of briefing, and entered us into a war largely because he didn't understand nuclear weapons treaties and did not listen to anyone who told him that a weapons treaty having an end date is normal - so the treaty can be revised and renegotiated to meet changes in both countries and the rest of the world. You-know-who thought it was a weakness and the US was getting screwed.
edot 59 minutes ago | parent
Interesting to read but … why bother?
alephnerd 50 minutes ago | parent
Because a number of the people associated with this are still alive on all sides.
1998-2001 was only 25-28 years ago, so a lot of sources are still alive or active sources as we speak, and in a number of cases now decisionmakers in theirs early-mid 60s.
It's the same way how a KGB liaison officer in 1989 Dresden ended up invading Ukraine 25 years later.
> Interesting to read but … why bother?
It still has academic value, and plenty of information to be garnered.
tancop 27 minutes ago | parent
I think there should be a law that any info is fully public after like 20 years unless releasing it would put a specific person or named group in danger, like a source's identity but not the things they said. No vague talk about national security that can't be verified unless you have a clearance and is probably subjective anyway.
Yes, that includes nuclear weapon designs, hacking tool source code and every assassination plan ever dreamed up by some megalomaniac CIA officer. The system needs to go.
SoftTalker 24 minutes ago | parent
dmix 14 minutes ago | parent
> the C.I.A.’s standard practice is to release them only after about 40 years, to ensure no sources are compromised and minimize any potential tension with allies.
So this was released much earlier than usual and that might be why it's more aggressively redacted
ozgrakkurt 14 minutes ago | parent
They don't even release files about human trafficking rings (epstein). Pretty sure what you are suggesting is impossible.
From the outside, it even looks like Trump attacked Iran because of the epstein files. The war is causing more deaths and terror. And it is causing economic problems worldwide. Pretty sure US government legitimacy is at the lowest point in my lifetime.
Jtsummers 11 minutes ago | parent
He attacked Iran because he has warhawks and wannabe crusaders in his core group of advisors who believed that it would actually be a quick war, and that the people who had always cautioned against it were just nervous nellies. It doesn't help that Hegseth actively worked to remove people who would have cautioned against it so the yes-men "leaders" left behind were more willing to go along with the false confidence that a short few strikes would be enough.
Fischgericht 13 minutes ago | parent
dboreham 50 minutes ago | parent
pazimzadeh 15 minutes ago | parent
Almost like there was no reason to include them in the 'Axis of Evil' at a time when the US was providing cover for them in the fight against Taliban.
dmix 7 minutes ago | parent