14 points garo-pro 2 hours ago 4 comments

enraged_camel 1 hour ago | parent

"Moonshot serves Claude instead of Kimi and collects exchanges for model training"

"DeepSeek serves Claude instead of its own models and collects exchanges for model training"

Obviously. This is how they were able to score so high in benchmarks.

m-hodges 33 minutes ago | parent

> We discovered that Moonshot AI, the company that produces the Kimi family of models, silently forwarded customer requests to Claude, instead of processing them using Kimi. Moonshot then displayed Claude’s responses to users. These users thought they were using a Kimi model, but received responses from Claude instead.

> DeepSeek also silently relayed exchanges to Claude without informing DeepSeek customers.

> MiniMax built its own proxy network service through a shell company. This shell company has no obvious links to MiniMax and does not disclose its relationship to its parent company. This shell proxy network service only offers access to models developed by Anthropic and OpenAI. The service does not offer access to any Chinese models, including Minimax’s own.

throwa356262 12 minutes ago | parent

Don't feel this makes any financial sense.

Maybe they are confusing Chinese AI companies with token resellers using the same alibaba infrastructure??

mlazos 5 minutes ago | parent

It’s to the point I don’t even read Anthropic’s marketing blog anymore lol. The ai psychosis is just so real when people take these fluff blog posts which never have evidence or reproducibility and treat them like gospel